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  • ron65
    I have noticed knowledgable gun sellers in many cases indicate the year a gun was made based on the serial number. Is there an easy way to get this information for the novice. I have several guns that I would like to obtain this info........Thanks in advance
    Terry
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  • iwannausername
    Or afraid it might be reported stolen, and taken from them. Or that the local police, etc. might "register" it to them.
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  • Spider7115
    Unfounded paranoia.
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  • Herschel
    I agree with Spider7115. Often when this topic comes up I ask for any instance where the false stolen report, etc. has occurred. No one has ever provided one. It could result in the new "owner" of a stolen gun losing it if it came to light that it had been stolen in the past and not recovered.
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  • Bert H.
    Hello Ron,

    This same question is asked several times each year. Here is a recent discussion with multiple links to other similar topics...

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=440114
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  • Horse Plains Drifter
    quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
    Unfounded paranoia.
    Yep.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    ,,,,what would you do re the following,,,,,gun purchased from an on line auction,,,,,turned out to be a scam,,,,,pix mailed via of pvt e/m showing serial number,,,,,,,,would you file a stolen gun report with authorities knowing the pictured gun is probably legally owned by an innocent person,,,,,,,just askin',,,,caused it happened to me,,,[V]


    How can you (or anyone for that matter) file a "stolen gun" report on a gun you never owned?

    What needed to be reported (to the FBI) was a fraudulent internet sale (scam). The legal owner of the gun still has possession of it, and he/she should not need to become involved in the investigation of internet fraud.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    Bert,,,,not sure re the legal aspects,,,,,,if the gun was offered for sale and a cashiers check for the gun was cashed would this constitute change of ownership and complete the fraud ?????,,,,,somewhat of a gray area ????,,,,,



    No, it does not constitute a change of legal ownership. The true owner of the gun did not sell it to you, and therefore, there is no "gray area". You got ripped off by someone who never owned the gun, and this unfortunately happens quite frequently on the internet.

    Your local LEO does not sound like a very bright person, as he/she should be fully aware of who and how to file an internet based fraudulent sale.

    As for the original (true) owner of the gun, how do you (or local law enforcement) even know who or where that person is located?

    What it boils down to is this... the gun itself was never stolen, but pictures of it were posted on the internet (fraudulently), and some scam artist (thief) sold you something that he never legally possessed.

    As I mentioned before, this is an all too common scam that is perpetrated, and quite often, by somebody not within the U.S. borders. The tip-off to these scam artists is that they never have any feedback, and that they are very newly listed members. They make one fake sale, immediately drop the registered name they just used, and then establish a new user name and move on to the next victim. If a seller has an "NR" rating, buyer beware. If you have any doubts about the item for sale, ask the seller for an additional picture with some type of an identifying object in the immediate background (e.g. a quarter with the tails side up). A true owner/seller can easily provide the picture, while the thief can not.
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  • Bert H.
    quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
    ,,,,,followup to above,,,,local LEO and Atty. suggested the filing of a theft report,,,,,,I declined,,,,no way would I want an innocent person (legal owner) to be in the 'hot seat' for a $500 gun,,,,,,


    That was a mistake on your part... you should have filed a theft report for the $500 cashiers check.
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