CENTURY ARMS PAR-3 Opinions ??
Have one new in box .. Any opinions, comments, value on these ? Thanks
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The infamous pump-action AK. A lot of these ended up being converted to semi auto, which can be done by replacing the bolt carrier, gas tube and hand guard (and a few other minor parts). The rifle was developed for the CA market place but virtually no one in CA was even remotely interested in it and Century found sales tough. I think at one point the rifles were being sold for $179. Feeding and functioning is a problem and can be traced back to the original design which used a powerful gas flow to cycle the rifle's action and feed the rounds. With the pump action the shooter is providing the muscle (literally) to cycle the rifle and the amount of force used to pump the forend varies from shooter to shooter, as well as varying on just how tired the same shooter is after a day spent pumping away on his AK. A full 30 round magazine places a lot of pressure on the bottm of the carrier and you have to add that pressure to the force needed to cycle the action, but as the magazine empties the rifle gets easier to pump. Go a little too easy with the pump action and the rifle will jam. The .223 rifles, like their semi auto brothers, seemed to be even less relaible than the 7.62X39 versions. In my opinion these things are interesting curios but will never attract any interest from AK collectors or shooters. 0 -
What is a good price to sell the one I have for ? Any ideas ? .... 0 -
There has been one listed on the auction side for quite a long time at $399 and has never received a single bid. 0 -
I've heard of these, but have never shot one.
How hard/easy might it be to convert one back into semi-auto?0 -
You need a new bolt carrier because the existing one has no handle or gas piston (the bolt head is identical to the semi auto). You then need a gas tube so that the piston has someplace to go. The barrel has no gas port so you need to remove the front sight, drill a hole for teh port and then replace the sight. A lot of these rifles have the gas block drilled out so you either need to replace the entire block or somehow cover the opening. I believe there are some slight differences in the fire control parts. When you could purchase one of these rifles for $179 and then buy a complete Romanian AK surplus parts kit for $99 modifying the rifle was fairly cost effective. I am doubtful that it is worth while at all these days. 0 -
The very existance of something like the PAR-3 makes me angry. 0 -
Mark, thanks for the conversion info.
quote:Originally posted by 7.62x39Lover
The very existance of something like the PAR-3 makes me angry.
Relax. . .you'll live longer. . . [;)]
Would you feel better if you think of the PAR-3 as a way to try and skirt stupid gun laws?
I think that's the "answer" here, by the way. A pump-action AK makes sense mostly only in jurisdictions that ban semi-auto weapons. Whether or not one is worth what amounts to nearly the full cost of a "real" semi-automatic AK variant is up to the buyer.
In my opinion, probably not. An SKS rifle, or even a simple sporting Saiga probably makes more sense, if you can get one.
If you can't get one, you might was well just get a bolt-action rifle in 7.62x39 instead.
I'd jump on something like this Australian made M10 in a heartbeat if they were available in the USA. Its a modern bolt action rifle in 7.62x39 built on a SMLE platform that uses peep sights and takes AK magazines. It exists nearly purely because semi-auto guns are banned to civilians in Australia:
I like it.0 -
quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
Mark, thanks for the conversion info.
quote:Originally posted by 7.62x39Lover
The very existance of something like the PAR-3 makes me angry.
Relax. . .you'll live longer. . . [;)]
Would you feel better if you think of the PAR-3 as a way to try and skirt stupid gun laws?
I think that's the "answer" here, by the way. A pump-action AK makes sense mostly only in jurisdictions that ban semi-auto weapons. Whether or not one is worth what amounts to nearly the full cost of a "real" semi-automatic AK variant is up to the buyer.
In my opinion, probably not. An SKS rifle, or even a simple sporting Saiga probably makes more sense, if you can get one.
If you can't get one, you might was well just get a bolt-action rifle in 7.62x39 instead.
I'd jump on something like this Australian made M10 in a heartbeat if they were available in the USA. Its a modern bolt action rifle in 7.62x39 built on a SMLE platform that uses peep sights and takes AK magazines. It exists nearly purely because semi-auto guns are banned to civilians in Australia:
I like it.
If you like that rifle, CZ makes a nice little bolt action rifle in 7.62x39mm. Available here in what used to be God's Country. [;)]0 -
That is a sweet rifle there Beany...I'm with Mark...I like it! 0
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