Robar NP3+ Finish, worth the money?
I'm curious if it's worth having my P7 PSP NP3+ finished inside & out? I heard some good thing about this finish but would like to hear 1st hand from some of you who have done this to their pistols. I carry a S&W 360 M&P usually but was looking for alittle more firepower with conceilability. I picked the P7 for it's rigid/fixed barrel. I am very good with a revolver but semi's are alittle tougher for me since the barrel "floats". I believe the fixed barrel would correct this. The P7 I bought is excellent to like new with minimal holster wear. I don't want this thing to rust up or have to give it alot of attention every time I carry it. Is this worth the cost? Let's hear from you all.
As Always, GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!
As Always, GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS!
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I've never used the NP3+ finish myself, but I've heard its excellent, and have no reason to think otherwise.
The problem is that Robar isn't ashamed to charge you fully $395 for the internal/external refinish job (including one magazine) plus a $6 handling fee. Price list here:
http://www.robarguns.com/Robar Price List April 2010.pdf
On top of that, you have to cover both shipping and insurance (which will probably run you about another $25-50).
For over $400, personally, I wouldn't consider this as worth it. Maybe if money were no object, but in my case it is.
A little maintenance and $5 worth of CLP ought to prevent rust with most guns.
The $400+ you save that way could literally buy you a second entire gun in either stainless steel or rust-resistant polymer.
EDIT: Responding to below:
quote:As for beantownshootah, yes I understand your point of view and agree with you 100%, but at this stage of my life I had worked worked real hard and pinch pennies for all these years and I feel the need to be alittle selfish right now, but thanks for grounding me.
Well then, I think you answered your own question.
I'd be a bit more positive on the refinish if the $400 cost added $400 dollars (or hell, even $200) to the resale value of the gun, but unfortunately, I don't think it will.
Note, that I'm not questioning the intrinsic cost of the process. Robar can only charge what the market can bear, and for all I know, he may not even be making much money on a $400 refinish job (though I doubt the latter, and the fact that he just lowered his prices says something about the market, I think).
I'm just saying that at that absolute price level, I'd consider an NP3+ refinish to be a luxury, that's all.
Its like justifying the cost of a BMW. On any rational level, you can probably get the job done with a lot less. Its just not about what's most rational or most cost-efficient!0 -
dirtyharry331,
Congratulations of the P7, it's an excellent defensive handgun.
I've worked with this product (NP3) for quite a number of years without hesitation. Clients are always pleased and if there was any little problem, it was always handled appropriately.
Robbie Barrkman can charge whatever the market will bear, which is true for any prices for services by any company. Whether it's acceptable is always up to the individual, of course. Robbie is not shy about making maney and paying himself nor should he be. He put in the effort to make this company what it is and deserves what the public will pay. The market demand will guide the pricing.
I don't hesitate to recommend NP3 or Cerakote or Duracoat, etc. Each has a use and a place in the industry. I personally don't like paint, preferring rust blue and oil finishes but when it comes to most of the work I do, the paint finishes are highest in demand.
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I just sent my P7 in for the full treatment of NP3+. I only had the pistol a total of 3 days when someone on Park City Tactical in "the cult of the P7" mentioned the sale. He is having a "July is so hot I must be crazy sale" on his work, 20% off! That makes his $395 external & internals + 1 mag deal only $316. One of the guys at my gunshop has a P7M8 he did & boy does it look great. And with his "Limited Lifetime Guarrantee" I just could not resist. I'm looking for a set of nice wood grips from either Nill or someone else that is recommended. I like the fact it "impregnates" the metal as oppose to just "coating" it. It may take 8 weeks but I have been using my S&W 360 M&P for CCW this long I can wait. Yes is it expensive but if you are a person who is keeping a gun for a long time (some guns I have had for 40 years) I feel I'll get my moneys worth out of it. And for the rest who have been sitting on the fence over having this done to your gun the sale ends at the end of this month. And with no money down you can save your pennies in two months to foot the bill. Time is ticking away!
As for beantownshootah, yes I understand your point of view and agree with you 100%, but at this stage of my life I had worked worked real hard and pinch pennies for all these years and I feel the need to be alittle selfish right now, but thanks for grounding me.
beantownshootah, I have watched the sales of this gun for over 4 months before my decision to buy this piece. Fortunely I got this at a great price and with the NP3+ coating will raise the cost of the pistol to what a brand new in the box would cost. The piece I bought was barely shot and carried alittle but the edges have wear from the holster but the insides were new (not rebuilt). Besides I did buy this as my person carry piece and since I have a tendency to sweat alittle I do not want to cause damage to the gun nor to have CLP rubbing off on me at anytime while I carry. My son's loving it and I'll hand it over to him later in my life where the squeeze-cocker might get hard for me to handle properly. But I will enjoy it while I can.0 -
Very good
But I use www.originalmetaloy.com
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NP3 does not "impregnate" or even penetrate the metal. It's simply electroless nickel plating with Teflon suspended in the plating.
RoBar does a good job of applying it.0 -
Please read the Posting Guidelines found in the link under the Gunbroker logo on every page of the forums.
These are the type of comments allowed by the General Discussion forums, not Ask the Experts.0 -
DRP-AZ,
Virtually every manufacturer or supplier has a 'spin' of some sort whether they pay to have their advertising done or they do it for themselves. Robar is no different. There is crap written everywhere in print and the internet is getting overwhelmed with distortions.
That same complaint about the work force can be focused on thousands of businesses in the U.S. including the most highly respected McMillan Fiberglas Stocks, except they aren't just Mexicans there. The large portion of the meat packing industry is controlled by Mexican labor intentionally bussed right to the plants from Mexico where they are recruited.
I have no reason to defend Robbie or his business practices, I don't even like him but that is his choice of labor as well as yours to make for who you choose as your suppliers. When a client asks for Robar finishing, they get Robar finishing. When they ask for something else, that's what they get as long as the quality is verifiable.
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