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My son just bought a new marlin 308 express.he comes home and tells me it is all jammed up.so i look it over and dig the jam out for him and i ask to see the ammo he was givin by our local sports store a box of 308 winchester ammo.i told him to put them up and don't try shooting them again.in the mean time i call the guy at the sports store and ask him why he sold him 308 win when my son suggested 308 marlin exp.he told me there is know difference he said the two types will work together.scratching my head i asked if he done this to anyone else he said ya two other guys.i told him they may be back.and he would not give me any money back on the other box of ammo..so to the pros is he write or am i..?????
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you are[:(!]take them back and talk to the manager.get your money back or a new box of ammo. 0 -
Here is a link to Hornady's version...
http://www.chuckhawks.com/308_marlin_first_look.htm0 -
quote:Originally posted by needmyguns
My son just bought a new marlin 308 express.he comes home and tells me it is all jammed up.so i look it over and dig the jam out for him and i ask to see the ammo he was givin by our local sports store a box of 308 winchester ammo.i told him to put them up and don't try shooting them again.in the mean time i call the guy at the sports store and ask him why he sold him 308 win when my son suggested 308 marlin exp.he told me there is know difference he said the two types will work together.scratching my head i asked if he done this to anyone else he said ya two other guys.i told him they may be back.and he would not give me any money back on the other box of ammo..so to the pros is he write or am i..?????
Well for one the guy is a jackass, but it is well known that standard amunition should not be used in a tube feed lever action. Thats why until the advent of leverevolution the bullets were round nose. So it certainly is not okay to do even if the cases were similar.
Marlin on the left,, Win on the right0 -
thanks alot guy's i new darn well it was a different caliber.if not why would it have a different name.i can't belive it this guy bought the old sporting goods store about 3 years ago.so it was the owner that sold the ammo..im a little bit pissed he owns the place he should have know better.dang it anyway....[:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!][:(!] 0 -
Simple answer, what does it say on the gun[?]
Thats what it should say on the box.0 -
Demand your money back or a new box of ammo. If he still wants to jerk you around, I'd make a quick call to your local LEO. Selling customers the wrong ammo, whether he knew it or not, can cause some serious damage and possible injuries/death. Not something to be taken lightly, for your son's sake, and for anyone else who goes in there to buy ammo. 0 -
Caveat emptor.
Did your boy by any chance read ALL those pamplets that are provided
with and are also available FREE from Marlin?
I would be willing to bet he did not.
Maybe he is not ready/mature enough to be trusted with a Firearm.0 -
quote:Originally posted by oscat271
Caveat emptor.
Did your boy by any chance read ALL those pamplets that are provided
with and are also available FREE from Marlin?
I would be willing to bet he did not.
Maybe he is not ready/mature enough to be trusted with a Firearm.
WHOA!
When the G/S owner says 'this will work', his rep is on the line!
OP: The greater head-to-shoulder length of the .308 Win. should have prevented the closing of the acton. Ask your son if he forced the action closed. If not, chamber another .308. If it goes in, and locks W/O resistance, you have an out-of-spec chamber. My bet is the action was forced into the locked position. Best if you try to chamber a .308 yourself, and see.
Again, notice the difference in the cartridge lengths. (And rim diameter). Best, Joe0 -
quote:Originally posted by needmyguns
so to the pros is he write or am i..?????
In my opinion, neither one of you is "write".
As you know, .308 Marlin express isn't the same as .308 Winchester. Simple common sense suggests that these two aren't the same. So the seller was wrong to claim that the two are interchangeable when they're not.
In designing this new cartridge, Marlin wanted to convey the impression that its new round was LIKE the famous .308 Winchester, so it deliberately gave its new levergun round a similar name. (The same way SIG called its autogun round "357 SIG" to capitalize on the reputation of the .357 magnum revolver round).
Although at first glance Marlin probably thought this is good marketing, its confusing, and I strongly doubt that your son and the store owner are the only ones who have made this mistake! IMO, Marlin SHOULD have called its new round ".308 Marlin LEVER" (or even just ".308 lever") and that would have helped prevent this sort of confusion.
Despite that, your son was also wrong for not knowing what kind of gun he owned and for purchasing and loading the incorrect ammunition into it. . .even though he got bad advice on it.
Guns are for responsible adults, and you have to know what you are doing when you use them. NRA rule 7 of gun safety states:
quote:Use only the correct ammunition for your gun.
Only BBs, pellets, cartridges or shells designed for a particular gun can be fired safely in that gun. Most guns have the ammunition type stamped on the barrel. Ammunition can be identified by information printed on the box and sometimes stamped on the cartridge. Do not shoot the gun unless you know you have the proper ammunition.
Yes, the store owner here *should* take the .308 ammo back and give you either a refund or (at least) store credit for it. Just as a matter of sound business practice, he did make a mistake and should make it better, if at least just to keep the customers happy. Taking the ammo back costs him little more than the cost of one messed up round (he can still sell the rest of the ammo), but should earn him some goodwill. Not taking it back means he potentially loses TWO customers. . .you AND your son. . .plus whatever bad word of mouth you give him.
Unfortunately, in practice, very few retail stores will accept ammunition in return anymore, for legal reasons. When you buy ammo, you should consider it "all sales final".
Consider this a cheap lesson.
Fortunately, nobody was injured or killed because of this ammo mixup, and your son is only out (at most) the cost of one box of ammo.
If you can't use the .308 Winchester yourself, don't worry; its a fairly popular caliber, and you shouldn't have a terribly hard time finding someone else who can use it, or be willing to sell/trade it to get you some of your money back.0 -
oscat271 for your info smartass he did read it and i told him to make sure he gets the right ammo.the fact he brought home the wrong ammo is the store owners fault.he thaught maybe there was a knew ammo out so shut your big mouth..TROLL 0
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