CZ-75
'm new to the site but wanted to ask all of my fellow firearm-lovers out there what they know of the CZ-75. I have heard alot about it but am not quite sure what to believe. I hear that the best one is the "Model 1", that this was made out of a superior alloy. The subsequent models were made after the government fell on hard times, and a cheaper grade of steel was used in their construction to deal with the increase in demand for these pistols.
Also, I read that Sweden wanted to make the CZ-75 their military pistol but stipulated that they wanted the slide-rails extended (and several other modifications) which threw-off the balance of the gun, and this named the "Model 2". After this there have been many other iterations and copies of the gun, but the Model 1 seems to have endured the rigors of time.
My main question is, are there any more Model 1's out there (I've searched far and wide and come up with 'nada'), and are the other models just as good -- such as the ones you can buy direct from "CZ-USA.com" today?
Hope some of you guys out there know this gun and can help me out. Thanks a bunch!
Also, I read that Sweden wanted to make the CZ-75 their military pistol but stipulated that they wanted the slide-rails extended (and several other modifications) which threw-off the balance of the gun, and this named the "Model 2". After this there have been many other iterations and copies of the gun, but the Model 1 seems to have endured the rigors of time.
My main question is, are there any more Model 1's out there (I've searched far and wide and come up with 'nada'), and are the other models just as good -- such as the ones you can buy direct from "CZ-USA.com" today?
Hope some of you guys out there know this gun and can help me out. Thanks a bunch!
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I have a CZ-75 9mm pistol that I'm curious about . It's stamped CZ-75 , Made in Czech Republic , AAL Phila., PA on the left side , The controls are on the left side only , Black plastic grips , commander style hammer , it's SA,DA fixed sights . I looked on the auction sites and didn't see one like it , It's in beautiful condition , not a scratch on it ! I've had it about ten years and I took it in trade on something and it was used when I got it . It has 2 Magazines one 15 round and one 20 round . 0 -
It was imported by Action Arms, who were the US importer prior to 1994, The fact it says Czech Republic (and not Czechoslovakia) means it was produced sometime after 1993 (when the Czech Republic came into existence).
Does it look like mine?
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A few good pictures could be REALLY helpful here. If you don't know how to post them, see the "sticky" at the top of the "ask the experts" main page.
Purely based on your description, you MIGHT have a "transitional" CZ-75 which was an intermediate design gun manufactured in between the older "Pre-B" guns and the current manufacture CZ-75B guns.
EDIT for what its worth, CZ-75B was introduced in 1995, though I think there were a few years in between there where CZ was using up old parts and mix/matching them to make various guns.
If your gun is from post-95 or 96 its probably a "regular" CZ-75B. If it was made before then, it might be one of those transitional guns
Here's my 1984 Pre-B CZ-75 with round triggerguard and bobbed spur hammer. The older ones like this are labelled "Made in Czechoslovakia" on them (instead of "Czech Republic"). Note the original black plastic "waffle" pattern grips with the CZ logo on them:
If I remember right, the year of manufacture should be written in a small oval on the slide behind the ejection port (eg mine says "84"). That could be helpful.
There are only a few differences between the older CZ-75s and the current one. Old ones had a spur hammer and a rounded triggerguard. New ones have a commander-style ring hammer and a squared off triggerguard. The biggest difference is that the CZ-75B has a firing pin safety, something like a series 80 Colt 1911, to help reduce the likelihood of the gun going off if dropped. Like the series 80s (vs 70s) this firing pin block slightly degrades the quality of the trigger pull.
If yours is, in fact a "transitional" gun, then it might have the cosmetic appearance of the newer guns with ring hammer and squared triggerguard, but the internals (lacking firing pin block) of the older guns.
Added collectors value over a "regular" CZ-75 is probably not much, but these guns are really excellent shooters and great service guns.0 -
Mark , it looks the same only mine has a squared serrated front on the trigger guard . Beantownshoota , the oval by the ejection port says 94 . The hammer is not like either of your pictures it has a loop spur . What's it worth ( ball park ) , looks like new and hasn't been shot much ? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by oneoldsap
Mark , it looks the same only mine has a squared serrated front on the trigger guard . Beantownshoota , the oval by the ejection port says 94 . The hammer is not like either of your pictures it has a loop spur . What's it worth ( ball park ) , looks like new and hasn't been shot much ?
Ah. . .
Since your gun has the cosmetics of a CZ-75B (ring hammer and square triggerguard), but was made in '94 (ie before the "B" model was widely released), you quite likely DO have one of the "transitional" guns.
CZ-75B:
Good intro on this:
http://members.cox.net/badtaiwanese69/pages/CZ75.htm
Does this look a bit familiar?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=173628692#PIC
These may be worth a LITTLE more than a regular gun to a collector, though not much.
In excellent shape, I'd guesstimate your gun at maybe $500 or so.
Edit:
Personally, the CZ-75 is my favorite of the common "service" type guns, and I prefer it to Glock, Sigs, Beretta, Browning, Smith, etc. Its highly accurate (more so than many others), super reliable, and really ergonomic.
Its a "keeper" for sure.0 -
The B is a little different on the front of the trigger guard than mine . Thanks for your help guys . This seems like a good solid piece , I like steel guns , plastic ones not so much ! 0 -
quote:Originally posted by oneoldsap
The B is a little different on the front of the trigger guard than mine . Thanks for your help guys . This seems like a good solid piece , I like steel guns , plastic ones not so much !
This is supposedly a 1994 CZ-75, which I think makes it a "transitional" model right before the "B" came out. I nicked the image from the CZ-75 board. Look familiar?0 -
Blue Book says $355 in 98% condition and $430 in 100%. Standard Catalog says $425 in Very Good and $500 in Excellent. 0 -
Yep , that's her . I haven't shot it in the past 7 or 8 years ( it's a 1911 thing ) . Tomorrow it's going to the range with me , I certainly didn't remember how well it fits my Ham hands . Not quite as well as a double stack Para , but real good . 0 -
Hey Guys:
Greetings to all! I also have a 1984 CZ-75 in its original locking box, instruction manual, two magazines and cleaning kit. It is in great shape with only minor scratching on one side and less that 500 rounds fired. It was bought in Germany and has no import marks anywhere. Out of curiosity, does anybody know how much it is worth?
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