slugs and recoil
I have shot my fair share of fosters slugs, and man those things are brutal. Well this year I upgraded to a rifled bore and have been researching the sabot on the market. I noticed quite a bit of 12 gauge slugs that are 3/4 oz or 300-350 grains, and got to thinking they may have reduced recoil. Compared to 1oz sabots. True?
Now question two, is there a noticeable recoil difference between a sabot and a rifled slug? (same weight) I guess I have shot muzzle loaders and they had less recoil than the rifled slugs in my 12ga. What say the experts?
The 3/4 oz slugs are being pushed at 1900fps mv. The 1 oz looks to be in the 1500-1600 range my guess is similar recoil then. Quite impressive for a slug loading though. I plan on buying a few different boxes, and investing in a limbsaver percision fit pad.
Good news is the rifled barrel is much heavier stock than the IC slug barrel I have.
Now question two, is there a noticeable recoil difference between a sabot and a rifled slug? (same weight) I guess I have shot muzzle loaders and they had less recoil than the rifled slugs in my 12ga. What say the experts?
The 3/4 oz slugs are being pushed at 1900fps mv. The 1 oz looks to be in the 1500-1600 range my guess is similar recoil then. Quite impressive for a slug loading though. I plan on buying a few different boxes, and investing in a limbsaver percision fit pad.
Good news is the rifled barrel is much heavier stock than the IC slug barrel I have.
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Less projectile weight equals less recoil, all other factors being the same.
As regards question number two, if the loadings are comparable, same firearms, etc. there would be little or no difference.
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Mossberg, I don't have any ballistic or scientic numbers for you,but I can share my experince. First thing I've found is for a unexplainable reason each slug gun likes a certain brand of slug over the next guys gun which is identical. Try a couple different brands and see what works best for you/your gun before stocking up on them. The wife has a rem 870 20ga.smooth bore and shoots the rem. 'high velocity' rifled slugs. She can shoot them all day w/o a recoil pad. She can reach out 115 yds. from flat zero before it drops.After that it drops like a rock, bout 5-6 inches at 120yds.
I've got the 870 12 ga. w/ fully rifled bbl. When I first got it I shot 8 rnds. of the rem 'buckhammer' 2 3/4 sabots through it and thought I shot my shoulder off it hurt so bad. I turned deep purple, black/blue from my sternum to entire right side from neck to navel and entire right arm to my wrist. Took 2 months to clear up from the brusing. Several buddies of course LOL'd at me and suggested a 'limb saver' slip on recoil pad. I got one and absolutley endorse that product. I can shoot 25-30 rounds and NOT HURT at all and there is NO brusing at all. I shoot the rem buckhammer 2 3/4 sabot. I'm good to 150 yds. from zero before it drops. 150 -200 yds drops about 5" . Haven't tried at anything past 200 tho. Hope something in my experience is helpful for you. Best to you. Joe.[:)][:)][:)]0 -
There are exceptions to all rules. The laws of physics do call for forces to exert back force. In a light gun with a heavy load you will no doubt feel more kick. 0 -
Without getting into specific loads, there are only a few factors that affect recoil that are potentially controllable by a shooter:
-Weight of projectile
-Velocity of projectile
-Weight of firearm
-Fit of firearm to shooter
The heavier the projectile and/or the faster it goes the greater the recoil.
The LIGHTER the firearm, the greater the recoil.
Lastly, the PAIN of recoil can greatly be affected by the fit of the gun to the shooter. This is where recoil pads (amongst a few other things) can help GREATLY.
So to specifically answer your question, yeah, in general lighter slugs will have less recoil. That's the easiest/quickest way to estimate differences.
There isn't going to be a significant (ie noticeable) difference between the exact same slug fired between a rifle and unrifled barrel. Likewise there shouldn't be any different between rifled and sabot slugs of the same weight *IF* they are being launched to similar velocities.
You can look at the manufacturer-published velocities to get some sense of this.0 -
I live in Illinois. NO rifle season, so setting up a good slug gun is a must if a guy wants to hunt whitetails.....When I was younger, I used 3" shells. Now I use 2 3/4" Huge difference right there.
No difference to the deer, they generally still drop within a few steps as long as I did my part.
As far as Sabots vs rifled slugs, the recoil difference is not really much of an issue. I have found Sabots to be far more accurate in my Slug gun, but know others will have a different experience0 -
I'd expect that same shotgun, same fit, same situation same velocity, same wt. load .... shot or slugs or sabot all be awfully close to equal perceived recoil.
I'd anticipate that 1.0 oz vs 3/4 oz with same charge, etc., would favor the later with much less perceived recoil. If I'm wrong, someone shed the light.
Otherwise any differences from shotgun to shot gun would most likely be due to fit to shooter, angle of drop and recoil pad.0
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