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Obama Hates Guns (and so does Hillary)

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  • buffalobo
    Has been posted a few times. Even if they do sign treaty(still unlikely), congress must ratify it(even more unlikely) before it would take effect. That said, they will try eventually.

    Signing of treaty will cause uproar. Congressional ratification will cause some violence. Attempted confiscation will cause the blood to flow.

    Everyone should be prepared and we all must be vigilant.
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  • wpage
    Never going to happen in his one term deal.
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  • IdahoRedneck
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    Never going to happen in his one term deal.



    I'm gonna second that...............If they want blood they got it [}:)][}:)] but it wont get that far.........yet, if it does, they best know whats on the other side of that door, and we all know they aint got a clue[:0] EDIT.....there focus will stay on immigration IMHO for the simple fact they have to get reelected to carry out there agenda
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  • dsmc1
    don't panic until it becomes absolutely necessary.

    see http://www.snopes.com/politics/guns/untreaty.asp

    The treaty IF ever signed would NOT override the Second Amendment.

    See the link for details.
    * The President of the United States cannot enact a "complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations." The right to keep and bear arms is guaranteed in the Constitution of the United States, and in the 1957 case Reid v. Covert, the U.S. Supreme Court established that the Constitution supersedes international treaties ratified by the U.S. Senate. (Furthermore, the U.S. Congress cannot be "bypassed" in any such treaty process, as all treaties must be ratified by a 2/3 vote of the Senate.)

    There is no "legal way around the 2nd Amendment" other than a further amendment to the Constitution that repeals or alters it, or a Supreme Court decision that radically reinterprets how the 2nd Amendment is to be applied.
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  • Goatroper
    quote:Originally posted by dsmc1
    don't panic until it becomes absolutely necessary.



    The treaty IF ever signed would NOT override the Second Amendment.


    There is no "legal way around the 2nd Amendment" other than a further amendment to the Constitution that repeals or alters it, or a Supreme Court decision that radically reinterprets how the 2nd Amendment is to be applied.



    True enough, and I also don't think this treaty could do what some fear it would -- at least not all by itself, and there's the rub. I don't take much comfort in that fact, considering the habit this administration has -- and others before it have had -- of ignoring the Constitution. Past gun bans and unreasonable (and unreasoned) restrictions on the gun rights of law-abiding citizens demonstrate this, as do past statements/votes of many in the current administration. Take a look at the histories of most of Obama's appointments to government posts, from the Supreme Court on down, and you'll find a host of dyed-in-the-wool gun-grabbers. Just my opinion, but I'd guess they're only biding their time, trying to get other things done first -- and they don't seem to be too concerned about the Constitution.

    Where does the Constitution allow what this administration has already done in taking control of an industry, or in deciding to dictate how much anyone in a particular industry can earn? Where does it authorize the federal government to force a bank to take TARP funds? Where in the Constitution is the fed given authority to force its citizens to buy a product, be it insurance or anything else?

    When a member of this administration states that the fed will not process illegal aliens arrested under Arizona's new law, he is in effect saying the fed won't enforce its own immigration law and won't allow anybody else to, either. The fed will enforce laws it likes, and ignore those it doesn't.

    And it isn't only the Second Amendment that's in danger. The FTC is contemplating taking over redefining the First. See this article:

    http://tinyurl.com/245l3vm

    Here's what he's talking about:

    http://www.ftc.gov/opp/workshops/news/jun15/docs/new-staff-discussion.pdf

    They don't even try to hide what they're doing any more.


    Edited ONLY to shorten link. [;)]
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