BP (walking) Cane Gun
Cane gun, cap primer, black powder, not an antique (appears newish), bought 20-yrs ago, no identification numbers and no markings.
In general, how are these defined when used legitimately as a walking cane in public while "unloaded".. since they can't be holstered... is it a firearm regardless whether it's loaded?
Same question but "loaded and primer attached in public", excluding those specific locations prohibiting firearms (churches, sporting events, schools, swimming pools)?
.. or ARE these Ga law specific questions?
In general, how are these defined when used legitimately as a walking cane in public while "unloaded".. since they can't be holstered... is it a firearm regardless whether it's loaded?
Same question but "loaded and primer attached in public", excluding those specific locations prohibiting firearms (churches, sporting events, schools, swimming pools)?
.. or ARE these Ga law specific questions?
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probaly made by RPB or SWD at the time..with todays polital climate if caught up in something could be trouble 0 -
Has a full curved handle, similar to an umbrella.
Is this a NFA/AOW albeit black powder?0 -
As it's a cap & ball, it would likely be considered a collectible antique or replica of an antique. However, if you load it and it's capable of firing a bullet, it would more likely be considered a "disguised firearm". I wouldn't chance it. Even if you were ultimately acquitted, jail ain't pretty and legal fees ain't cheap! 0 -
It is all going to be based on what your state and local laws have to say about carrying a loaded gun around in public. Being BP, cap fired and as long as it is not capable of firing conventional ammunition the gun falls outside the purview of the Gun Control Act, which means it is not considered to be a firearm under federal laws, but state laws are all over the place on these items. Any Other Weapons must fire fixed ammunition so a BP cane gun does not fit the regulation, although an example firing conventional ammunition does.
By the way, you had two identical threads on the exact same topic running on the boards and that is not allowed here. The duplicate tread was deleted.0 -
The definition you're looking for is "bad idea".
First of all, black powder guns aren't considered firearms per FEDERAL law. So you're safe there, against CERTAIN types of Federal prosecutions.
As to STATE and LOCAL law, those are a hodge-podge.
A blackpowder gun disguised as a cane may be legal in some jurisdictions, in others it definitely isn't. Even if it isn't technically a "firearm" its still a "weapon" and if you can't legally carry a concealed weapon you won't legally be able to carry this.
Whether or not the gun is loaded doesn't make any difference.
As a relevant analogy, if you're in a jurisdiction that doesn't permit concealed weapon carry, taking the magazine out of your 1911 isn't going to get you off the hook for illegally carrying the gun! The same would apply here. An unloaded weapon is still a weapon.
If you HAVE to know the law, your best bet would be to contact a lawyer who specializes in gun law in the State of GA. I'd imagine his counsel will probably cost more than the value of your cane gun, but its probably the closest thing you'll get to a "real" answer.
But if you want to save the legal fees, I can do that for you.
No lawyer with half an ounce of brains in their head is going to tell you that its OK to carry an unloaded cane-gun around with you!
There is absolutely **NO** upside to doing this. If you're lucky, nobody will ever find out that your cane is a gun. That's the best-case scenario.
The WORST-case scenario is that someone finds out about it, and you get arrested and charged with any number of crimes for carrying the gun in public.
Note that once you're caught doing something some authority deems is stupid, they may well try to make an example of you, and that can mean charging you with all sorts of unrelated things or hassling you in other ways. Even if you eventually beat all the charges, you still "lose" for having to fight them.
FORGET IT.
LEAVE THE CANE GUN AT HOME.
No "charge" for the advice! [;)]0 -
Apparently not a good idea to use this Cane as a CCW.. lol
Thank you very much for the helpful information Fellow's~!0
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