Child Molesters
Some here, the constitutional extremists-purists, have the goofey idea that, once a convicted felon serves out his sentence, then when he/she returns to society they should automaticlly get their full constitutional rights back. Like for example, a killer who murdered his family with a shotgun should get his right to own a firearm back. Of course that is just plain goofey, but what about this.
Once a child molester gets out of prison, by the above logic, that child molester would have all the rights everybody else has. The right to work in a day care center, the right to live next door to you and your children without you being informed that a convicted child molester lives next door, the right to be a Catholic Priest, The right to be a police officer (or any job they were quailfied for) etc., etc.
So............speak up boys. Should they or should they not get their constitutional rights back after they have served their sentence for molesting children.
Don't dodge the question by stating the child molester should just be shot to begin with. You probably are correct, but that is not the law now nor does it look like it will be the law in the future. So, when the child molester gets out of prison, should they get their full constitutional rights back?
Once a child molester gets out of prison, by the above logic, that child molester would have all the rights everybody else has. The right to work in a day care center, the right to live next door to you and your children without you being informed that a convicted child molester lives next door, the right to be a Catholic Priest, The right to be a police officer (or any job they were quailfied for) etc., etc.
So............speak up boys. Should they or should they not get their constitutional rights back after they have served their sentence for molesting children.
Don't dodge the question by stating the child molester should just be shot to begin with. You probably are correct, but that is not the law now nor does it look like it will be the law in the future. So, when the child molester gets out of prison, should they get their full constitutional rights back?
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quote:Originally posted by Bobsbullets
Here is my answer:....THANK GOD our country has a law saying that if you are a convicted felon you LOSE your RIGHTS to possess firearms.
As stated before....I am a cop, and I ENJOY seeing scumbag criminals go to prison when they get caught with a gun.
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going back to the OP: what's the connection between child molesters, The Constitution, and the 2A?
Anyone, anyone...
('cause I don't see any)0 -
i think most, myself included, would return the law back to when rape, murder and theft of anything more then a chicken or cow meant getting hung. Makeing a mockery of the constitution once by keeping these freaks alive so the state can monetize law enforcement, dont exactly justify doing it twice by infringeing fundimental rights of people more then they already are by doing the former..
Hows that for constitutional?
the Bill of rights is supreme law, when you read it, and there is no room for error in interpritation, then thats the law, unless changed by constitutional convention..
And all of this is kinda beside the point.
If the state sees fit to keep them alive, then it must mean that law makers, (and by extension you), think that these rapists, murderers and whatnots lives have some sort of inherent worth.
If thats the case, it would seem logical that they would also give them the means to defend said life of some sort of inherent worth from people who might come gunning for them once the have been rehabilitated by years of being bubbas girlfriend and are back out in the world..0 -
"Do not hinder them. Of such is the kingdom of heaven"
Anyone who molests children deserves severe punishment. God also reserves special judgment for these violators.0 -
I doubt jesus had rapists and mad dog killers in mind when he or whomever said that WPage..
Jesus came back to end sacrifice, to fullfil them with his blood and his blood sanctified the souls of those to come, The rest of the old testiments laws still apply.
In oherwords, These types of crimes are between the ones convicted and god, Its our job to arrange the apointment in a timely fashion.
i'm not advocating murder, never think it. Part of haveing a judicial system in the first place is to absolve any one person from the guilt of killing a man for his crimes, The fact that our rulers see fit to keep them alive is what it is, the laws should be abided, even if it does insure more victims.0 -
quote:Originally posted by tr fox
Some here, the constitutional extremists-purists, have the goofey idea that, once a convicted felon serves out his sentence, then when he/she returns to society they should automaticlly get their full constitutional rights back. Like for example, a killer who murdered his family with a shotgun should get his right to own a firearm back. Of course that is just plain goofey, but what about this.
Once a child molester gets out of prison, by the above logic, that child molester would have all the rights everybody else has. The right to work in a day care center, the right to live next door to you and your children without you being informed that a convicted child molester lives next door, the right to be a Catholic Priest, The right to be a police officer (or any job they were quailfied for) etc., etc.
So............speak up boys. Should they or should they not get their constitutional rights back after they have served their sentence for molesting children.
Don't dodge the question by stating the child molester should just be shot to begin with. You probably are correct, but that is not the law now nor does it look like it will be the law in the future. So, when the child molester gets out of prison, should they get their full constitutional rights back?
Tr Fox - I cannot comply with your original limitation on responses to your post. Child Molesters are the Worst sort of criminals. The recidivism rate of Child Molesters is closer to 100% than ANY OTHER catagory of criminal. That means they are the MOST LIKELY criminal to continue committing their special crime once released from prison, than any other catagory of criminal.
EVERY Child Molester DESERVES to be Executed, and executed immediately after being found Guilty of their crimes.
I tried to play by the rules you set on the original post, but that isn't possible when you know the reality of Child Molestor statistics.
Sorry - In MY opinion - A convicted Child Molestor should be put to death in the most efficient and immediate way.0 -
quote:Originally posted by tr fox
quote:Originally posted by COBmmcmss
So Fox, are they molesting guns - or children?
If I were a handgun, I'd be worried about them "handling" me...
Ok they served their time. COB Why shouldn't they get their rights?
Please answer that one before we go farther...
COB
Restricted rights because they cannot be trusted around children ever again. Simple enough for your sharp legal mind?
Gun rights and "rights to be around children".
Here's one for your not off center question.
One of these is enumerated in the Constitution.
The other is not. Guess which is which.
Are you advocating no internet for the armed felon who served his time and is done with parole? Why not cross over all of the tailored restrictions with all of the others so we treat them all equally?
Sorry Larry, but guns with molesters is NOT the issue. Children are.
You'll have to try a different tack - albeit you've tried that too.
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quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
going back to the OP: what's the connection between child molesters, The Constitution, and the 2A?
Anyone, anyone...
('cause I don't see any)
That is because you are a Constitutional Extremist, Max.
You know the type. Folks that actually believe a government should live by a set of rules.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Don McManus
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
going back to the OP: what's the connection between child molesters, The Constitution, and the 2A?
Anyone, anyone...
('cause I don't see any)
That is because you are a Constitutional Extremist, Max.
You know the type. Folks that actually believe a government should live by a set of rules.
Oh, fudge! Me too?! I better start watching out for the black helicopters then...
I was just wondering why child molesters specifically, not violent offenders and that sort of folk. Unless of course the OP has some sort of sick gun-child-molestation fetish...0 -
Believe it or not, but this alternative treatment direct to the unconscious mind can probably not only stop extreme violence with guns, if developed and publicized, but it is very likely that it can also stop child molestors and rapists from re committing their crimes.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=434277
Any who try to take guns before fighting to develop competent, effective mental health care, simply are ignorant of not only the constitution but the socratic oath and common sense.
People kill people, not guns.0 -
I believe Pickenup said it best. Look up the meaning of the word "RIGHTS" as referenced in the Constitution.
Also, as an Old Testament aside, an eye for an eye strike a certain tone. Felons who are felons because of murder should lose their RIGHT ti life. Also, pedophiles should be given to the Fathers or GrandFathers of the children that were molested. Let them have a go.[}:)][}:)]0 -
FOX.... all i can say is wow!!!! do you ever get tired of posting this crap....I mean seriously this is just lame..... I read A LOT of posts on here but don't respond very often, but this chit with you is REALLY getting old. why not go find a new hobby....or website. go piss off the Pope, I'm sure it would not take long.Time to move along or just STFU 0 -
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quote:Originally posted by jpwolf
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And again![:D]
What the definition of insanity again?
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quote:Originally posted by 82nd airborne infantry
FOX.... all i can say is wow!!!! do you ever get tired of posting this crap....I mean seriously this is just lame..... I read A LOT of posts on here but don't respond very often, but this chit with you is REALLY getting old. why not go find a new hobby....or website. go piss off the Pope, I'm sure it would not take long.Time to move along or just STFU
If you don't like what I post, then DON'T READ WHAT I POST. Course maybe you are such a weak sister that if someone posts something you cannot control yourself and you just HAVE to read the posts.
Oh, BTW, STFU.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Rockatansky
going back to the OP: what's the connection between child molesters, The Constitution, and the 2A?
Anyone, anyone...
('cause I don't see any)
Well, since you can't figure it our for yourself, I will explain once again. Many of the extremists here claim that once a convicted felon get out of prison, having served their sentence for their crime, then under the US Constitution that the extremists here believe in, then that felon should get all their constitutional rights back. Now usually the extremists here are just referring to the felon's 2A constitutional rights. But to try and get the extremists here to realize their flawed reasoning, I am asking if a child molester, once out of prison after being convicted and serving their time, should also get their full constitutional rights back.
If the extremists here are going to be consistant with their logic and reasoning, then they would have to answer that yes, the child molester would get all their rights back. How could it be any other answer?
And such an answer should be condenmed by any rationally thinking person.0 -
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