Amazing Progress In Arizona
Well, I call this amazing progress, although I know that most here will not agree.
The AZ governor just signed a bill stating that no concealed carry license is required to carry a concealed firearm in AZ. To me this is progress. Now I am well aware that because of the US Constitutional 2A and the constitution of some states (AZ? I don't know. Might check) there never should have been a requirement for lawful citizens to address their AZ government and have to ask for written permission to carry a concealed firearm. In theory that is how it should have been all along. But I deal in reality. I deal with what I have at hand. And the liberal left long ago highjacked our constitution. We have therefore lost so very many of our constitutional rights.
Passing laws giving us our constitutional rights back is at least one way to get those rights back. Such laws allow us to once again enjoy some of our constitutional rights all the while we work to get Americans to finally realize the the constitution gave us those rights long ago. When and if that happens, we can get rid of all the laws that did give us our constitutional rights back and just rely on the constitution for our rights. That is how it should have been all along.
To me such behavior is much better than going to a shooting war with our government.
But what do I know.
The AZ governor just signed a bill stating that no concealed carry license is required to carry a concealed firearm in AZ. To me this is progress. Now I am well aware that because of the US Constitutional 2A and the constitution of some states (AZ? I don't know. Might check) there never should have been a requirement for lawful citizens to address their AZ government and have to ask for written permission to carry a concealed firearm. In theory that is how it should have been all along. But I deal in reality. I deal with what I have at hand. And the liberal left long ago highjacked our constitution. We have therefore lost so very many of our constitutional rights.
Passing laws giving us our constitutional rights back is at least one way to get those rights back. Such laws allow us to once again enjoy some of our constitutional rights all the while we work to get Americans to finally realize the the constitution gave us those rights long ago. When and if that happens, we can get rid of all the laws that did give us our constitutional rights back and just rely on the constitution for our rights. That is how it should have been all along.
To me such behavior is much better than going to a shooting war with our government.
But what do I know.
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It was the Founders intention to have every man armed.
That intention was for the purpose of an unorganized Militia...a civilian force superior in strength to any standing army formed for purposes of American defence...and turned against the people by a despot.
There is endless information out there PROVING what the Founders reasons were for the Second Amendment....
and it was not for hunting.
It was not for sporting purposes.
It was not to protect shotguns.
It was not to protect gentlemen strolling the moors.
It was, pure and simply, to protect America from the ravages of tyranny..ever again. Its sole purpose was a deadly dagger aimed at the throat of any little Napoleon that happened along...the threat of the general public raising up and taking the Republic away from him.
Distrust those that insist that it is a good thing for government to control Liberties teeth.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
It was the Founders intention to have every man armed.
That intention was for the purpose of an unorganized Militia...a civilian force superior in strength to any standing army formed for purposes of American defence...and turned against the people by a despot.
There is endless information out there PROVING what the Founders reasons were for the Second Amendment....
and it was not for hunting.
It was not for sporting purposes.
It was not to protect shotguns.
It was not to protect gentlemen strolling the moors.
It was, pure and simply, to protect America from the ravages of tyranny..ever again. Its sole purpose was a deadly dagger aimed at the throat of any little Napoleon that happened along...the threat of the general public raising up and taking the Republic away from him.
Distrust those that insist that it is a good thing for government to control Liberties teeth.
Agree with all of that. Question is can we ever return to that? We are not there now .. we are capable of fending off a direct assault aimed at us, but how do we change the tide of legislation that is never ending?
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quote:Agree with all of that. Question is can we ever return to that? We are not there now .. we are capable of fending off a direct assault aimed at us, but how do we change the tide of legislation that is never ending?
My opinion...and it is mine alone;
The system has moved too far along the path of tyranny to accomplish ANYTHING except slightly slow the inevitable course towards the government killing fields.
Given that is true...the BEST course of action for decent citizens is to step OUT of the political process...and tend to yourself and your loved ones. Prepare yourself and as many others as you can for the hard times coming...and be ready to step into the breech when it is time.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
quote:Agree with all of that. Question is can we ever return to that? We are not there now .. we are capable of fending off a direct assault aimed at us, but how do we change the tide of legislation that is never ending?
My opinion...and it is mine alone;
The system has moved too far along the path of tyranny to accomplish ANYTHING except slightly slow the inevitable course towards the government killing fields.
Given that is true...the BEST course of action for decent citizens is to step OUT of the political process...and tend to yourself and your loved ones. Prepare yourself and as many others as you can for the hard times coming...and be ready to step into the breech when it is time.
That pretty well sums up the thought that I had. Thanks. [:)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Highball
Changed the laws, did you, Jim ? Yeah...I reckon you and the NRA sure have. 20,000+++ laws you have 'changed' the simple language of the Second Amendment with.
I prefer another way. Allow the slimy pukes in power to attempt to cram a total gun ban down the necks of the 3 percent. People like you, Jim, will accede to it...just the nature of some people.
People like me, Jim, suffer under the lash of being made into a criminal EVERY TIME we wish to buy another weapon...we take PERSONALLY what rolls off your back.
I DON'T LIKE BEING MADE INTO A CRIMINAL by slimebags in state capitals...merely because I wish to exercise a basic RIGHT.
I prefer they push the game to the limit...and let the victors take all the winnings.
That would set up another cycle...and for awhile, until people like you got in charge again, the government would not be powerful enough to interfere in the lives of ordinary citizens as they go about their daily lives.
THAT is the point where the 'ideal' starts to once again become radical, whacky, strung-out..the point where those that fear their fellow man more then they fear government get control and force their twisted viewpoints on an entire culture.
WRONG AGAIN, but this is the norm for you.[;)]
You are truly 'clueless'. You talk about this silly 'holier than thou' stuff constantly but you will be the first to bow, whimper, and beg when they come for you. I learned along a time ago those who are truly 'macho' don't have go around puffing their chest out and talking 'tough' like you do. You are just trying to impress people and get those who read this to 'believe' through your bragging, threats, and put downs that you are a real 'tough guy'. But experience has shown people that the 'loud ones' are not the 'tough ones'!!![;)] But I'll keep your secret![:D]0 -
Got that off your chest, Jim ?
So I am a coward..Fine...you got me figured out. What is going to be YOUR excuse...for crawling under the bed, Jim ?
OH..yeah. You won't...you will be running with those that intend to dig the trenches for the killing fields they fully expect to implement one of these days.0 -
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