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Werwolf
There have been lists of officials and other recognized individuals that don't support the Constitution, however I think that we need a list of officials and other recognized individuals that do and to constantly be scrutinizing these individuals as well in order to hopefully insure that no doppelgangers get on board surreptitiously, it is our responsibility to educate the masses. I have attempted to start a list of supporters of the Constitution based on GOA's(Gun Owners of America's) website, so feel free to add to the list only those that truly support the Constitution, however be prepared to defend the candidate or call into question those on the list that you feel do not support the Constitution, but again be prepared to back up your claim and GOA can also be notified so that they can investigate it if need be, this is not a complete list by any means.

(This is a list of officials and other recognized individuals that support the Constitution(without any liberal interpretation or progressive, collectivist compromise), please keep this list for that use only.)

Ron Paul (TX)
Chuck Baldwin (CP)
Larry Pratt (GOA)
Tom Coburn (OK)
Mike Huckabee (AR)
David Vitter (LA)
Jim Demint (SC)
John Boozman (AR)
Paul Broun (GA)
Steve Scalise (LA)
Roscoe Bartlett (MD)
Rob Bishop (UT)
Alex Jones (Host)
Jan Brewer (AZ)
Russell Pearce (AZ)
Christina Jeffrey (SC)
Rand Paul (KY)

Please be sure to give a brief why or why not when you either challenge someone on the list or add someone to the list.
Thanks.
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  • Wagon Wheel
    I had business on GB and couldn't resist checking out the recent posts. I find it impossible Not to weigh in on this one. Of ALL your prospects, I cast a vote for both Ron Paul and Chuck Baldwin to be included as supporters of the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment. In addition, I will also vote for any and every person you can find as a Co-Sponsor on any bill listed below AND any Senator you can find that has introduced similar legislation in the Senate. I would also vote for any Governor, State legislator or Municipal Official you add to the list that has introduced anything of a similar nature. NOTE: I'm not including a new law or ordinance that gives you more guidance on how you may exercise your right. That's just a new "gun control" measure to make enforcement easier!!!! Good luck with that.

    H.R. 3022: Second Amendment Protection Act of 2009 111th Congress 2009-2010
    This is a bill in the U.S. Congress originating in the House of Representatives.
    To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.
    Source Page:
    H.R. 3022: Second Amendment Protection Act of 2009 (GovTrack.us)
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h111-3022


    H.R. 1096: Second Amendment Protection Act of 2007 110th Congress 2007-2008
    This is a bill in the U.S. Congress originating in the House of Representatives
    To restore the second amendment rights of all Americans.
    NOTE: This one is also DEAD by the way!!!!

    Other Legislation with the Same Title:
    111th Congress: H.R. 3022Introduced
    109th Congress: S. 1488 - Dead
    109th Congress: H.R. 1703 - Dead
    109th Congress: H.R. 3436 - Dead
    108th Congress: H.R. 153 - Dead
    107th Congress: H.R. 1762 - Dead
    106th Congress: H.R. 1179 - Dead
    105th Congress: H.R. 2721 - Dead
    105th Congress: H.R. 4137: Second Amendment Restoration and Protection Act - Dead
    104th Congress: H.R. 2393: Second Amendment Reaffirmation Act - Dead
    104th Congress: H.R. 2470: Second Amendment Reaffirmation Act - Dead
    Source Page:
    H.R. 1096 [110th]: Second Amendment Protection Act of 2007 (GovTrack.us)
    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h110-1096&tab=related
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  • wsfiredude
    Wagon,

    Damn good to see you again.[;)][:D]
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  • Wagon Wheel
    wsfiredude:
    Thanks. I'm doing well. How about you? I have to admire those of you that can hang in here and deal with some of these folks. My head just couldn't take the daily beating. Sorry. Some of these folks are just beyond salvage.
    They don't seem to understand they can't have it both ways. Either you have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights or you don't. You can't pick and choose which portions you like, which portions you dislike and expect the Republic to last. There are provisions for changing the Constitution if you find it necessary but to pass un-Constitutional laws (in the name of protecting us from ourselves) that clearly violate the Constitutional/Bill Of Rights is not the proper process!!! Somehow people have come to believe that they can adopt a new law and all is well. They don't seem to realize that every new law comes with new restrictions and more governmental control over each and every one of us. Anyone lending support to that process is clearly on the wrong side of the fence as far as I'm concerned.
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  • pickenup
    quote:Originally posted by wsfiredude
    Wagon,

    Damn good to see you again.[;)][:D]

    What he said. [:D]

    It has been a while.
    From your post, I understand why.
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  • wsfiredude
    Wagon,

    Jump back in. We need more folks like you.

    As the truth comes out, more and more folks are beginning to see it and believe it.

    The tide is turning.[;)]
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  • Wagon Wheel
    pickenup:
    Thanks. I'm glad to see you're still holding down the fort. I've always respected what you do and consider you the best moderator on the site. I really like your new "sticky" but I think I'd have the comments posted separately.
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  • Wagon Wheel
    wsfiredude:
    Truth is I just don't have the time or the energy to sit around and argue with people that just, plain and simply, don't have a clue. I have often thought lately that I'd start a fund to finance anyone's move to Europe, completely paid for, if they want to live under a socialist system of government. Trouble is; they want it, but they won't move to it. They seem to want to bring their socialist ideology to fruition here on our soil. Eldridge Cleaver finally got the message when he lived under Communism. He couldn't get back to the USA fast enough!!! The proponents of gun control and all these other un-Constitutional items on the Governments agenda are taking us closer and closer every day to a totalitarian dictatorship and most people are eating it up, bite by bite, swallowing those little bits, as they are served, that just sound so good. They won't have a clue as to what they've lost until it's gone. Denial is their security blanket!!! It's gonna get cold when they lose that blanket!!!! I don't know how the rest of you hold up to it but I'm glad you do and I can only offer my sincere thanks.
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  • Wagon Wheel
    Werwolf:

    quote:There have been lists of officials and other recognized individuals that don't support the Constitution, however I think that we need a list of officials and other recognized individuals that do and to constantly be scrutinizing these individuals as well in order to hopefully insure that no doppelgangers get on board surreptitiously, it is our responsibility to educate the masses.

    I have attempted to start a list of supporters of the Constitution based on GOA's(Gun Owners of America's) website, so feel free to add to the list only those that truly support the Constitution, however be prepared to defend the candidate or call into question those on the list that you feel do not support the Constitution, but again be prepared to back up your claim and GOA can also be notified so that they can investigate it if need be, this is not a complete list by any means.
    I'd like to assist you again. This time with people I think you can actually find. The "homework" has been done for you by none-other-than the SPLC. They actually posted a brief stating WHY these people are "Dangerous"!!! Ron Paul, Chuck Baldwin, Paul Broun, Alex Jones and Larry Pratt made their list of 36 "Patriots" and 4 "Enablers". I've read all of them and submit them for your approval.

    If the SPLC hates them, more or less classified them as "Enemies Of The State", that's good enough for me. SO. here are 35 NEW nominees for your list courtesy of the SPLC that bear following more than "scrutinizing"/watching "to educate the masses".... I haven't forwarded it to GOA but if you approve, I'm sure the SPLC will (not) appreciate it!!!

    Meet the 'Patriots' | Southern Poverty Law Center
    http://www.splcenter.org:80/get-informed/publications/the-patriots?page=0,0

    If you would simply like to view "The List" GoTo the link and scroll down:
    SPLC Publishes Patriot Hit List
    By Chuck Baldwin - April 21, 2010
    Here are the 40 names that are targeted in the SPLC report (and guess who is listed at the very top? Yours truly):
    http://newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin583.htm
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  • Highball
    Wagon Wheel ;
    Welcome back.

    I just heard about that list. I must concur.
    Any that that terrorist group finds to be an `enemy of the State' gets high marks in my book.
    Sadly.many if not MOST police agencies uses the information from SPLC to guide them down a very dark path.
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  • Wagon Wheel
    Highball:

    Thank you very much. The SPLC report is dated April 2010. I don't know for sure what date it was actually released but it was sometime before the weekend. Chuck Baldwin, Public enemy #1, brought it to my attention with his 21 April column. I highly recommend everyone read it. He addresses the police usage issue.

    I've done some digging into this "list of enemies" and all I can say (for da*ned sure) is there IS definitely collusion between some very evil people to insure this list gets maximum exposure as a propaganda hit piece. Hopefully people are smart enough to see through this even though a dissenting view will be hard to find without prior knowledge or some very difficult research.
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  • Werwolf
    Hello Wagon Wheel, most definitely and since your good with pickenup, Highball and wsfiredude you are certainly good with me; unfortunately though I am on this long walk for a bit and wont be posting for a short while as I am preoccupied for the time being... But I trust you guys... And pickenup may update the list in its similar fashion if that's okay with him.
    Regards
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  • Wagon Wheel
    Hello Werwolf.

    You sure do walk a lot. I trust pickenup, Highball and wsfiredude as well but, I don't expect them, or you, to just take my word, even though I am trustworthy, for something as important as this. TRUST BUT VERIFY.

    What you read in these "Bio's" seems to be the worst things they could dig up, exaggerate and in some instances fabricate. I'm just making an attempt to assist you in YOUR endeavor. I never expected you to accept them for your list merely based upon what I say OR what you read on the SPLC list. I FULLY expected you to do some of your own research.

    This list of "Patriots" is an obvious attempt to smear 40 people and label them as "Enemies Of The State". That's what I DO know to be accurate. Look them up. Most people would opt for Wikipedia, I've NEVER understood that, but to be fair, I searched various references and people listed in the article and, if there is one, INVARIABLY the page has been recently modified. You find that at the very bottom of the page. I can only guess it was to reflect the content of this hit piece!!!! Some are so notorious there is nothing to be found other than a reference to this SPLC article. Scrubbed.

    Examples:
    Chuck Baldwin
    VDARE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This page was last modified on 7 April 2010 at 05:00.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDARE

    Baldwin condemns Islam as a "bloody, murderous religion"
    I have every column he has written since AUG. 2007 in my own personal archive. A word search of those document for "Islam is a "bloody, murderous religion"" turned up NOTHING!!! Refined it to: Islam a bloody murderous religion -NOTHING!! I refined it to just Islam and once again NOTHING!!! I also did an AT&T web search. Guess how many hits I got and what the reference was??? 3 and every one of them referenced the SPLC Article.

    I would refer you to his own archives, where all of his columns are posted, but coincedentially, since he posted the following column:
    Army Report Says Christians Threaten US Foreign Policy
    By Chuck Baldwin April 14, 2010
    P.S. I am very sorry that a hacker has inflicted serious disruption to the server that hosts my web site, Chuck Baldwin Live. As a result, my site is temporarily off line. We hope to have this situation resolved within the next day or two. In the meantime, you can access a skeleton version of my web site at: http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/homebackup/
    This column is temporarily archived at:
    http://newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin582.htm
    SOMEONE put him out of business.

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    John Hassey: the public face of Alabama's militia movement.
    No Wiki Page and the only other hits referrence the SPLC hit piece!!!

    Orly Taitz
    Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This page was last modified on 22 April 2010 at 08:02.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

    SOMEONE has been quite busy lately. If you want to know anything about these people, other than what was published in this piece, you will have to do some really deep digging to find any thing that hasn't been scrubbed that might disagree with the SPLC condemnation. Good Luck With that one. As far as I've been able to determine, it's ALL gone. Based on what I've found, and NOT found, they've convinced me but, then again, it's not my list. Free speech? No Internet controls or propaganda agendas??? And these folks have the audacity to condemn China!!!!!!! Give me a break!!!!
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  • Werwolf
    quote:Originally posted by Wagon Wheel

    Hello Werwolf.
    You sure do walk a lot. I trust pickenup, Highball and wsfiredude as well but, I don't expect them, or you, to just take my word, even though I am trustworthy, for something as important as this. TRUST BUT VERIFY.
    What you read in these "Bio's" seems to be the worst things they could dig up, exaggerate and in some instances fabricate. I'm just making an attempt to assist you in YOUR endeavor. I never expected you to accept them for your list merely based upon what I say OR what you read on the SPLC list. I FULLY expected you to do some of your own research.
    This list of "Patriots" is an obvious attempt to smear 40 people and label them as "Enemies Of The State". That's what I DO know to be accurate. Look them up. Most people would opt for Wikipedia, I've NEVER understood that, but to be fair, I searched various references and people listed in the article and, if there is one, INVARIABLY the page has been recently modified. You find that at the very bottom of the page. I can only guess it was to reflect the content of this hit piece!!!! Some are so notorious there is nothing to be found other than a reference to this SPLC article. Scrubbed.
    Examples:
    Chuck Baldwin
    VDARE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This page was last modified on 7 April 2010 at 05:00.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDARE
    Baldwin condemns Islam as a "bloody, murderous religion"
    I have every column he has written since AUG. 2007 in my own personal archive. A word search of those document for "Islam is a "bloody, murderous religion"" turned up NOTHING!!! Refined it to: Islam a bloody murderous religion -NOTHING!! I refined it to just Islam and once again NOTHING!!! I also did an AT&T web search. Guess how many hits I got and what the reference was??? 3 and every one of them referenced the SPLC Article.
    I would refer you to his own archives, where all of his columns are posted, but coincedentially, since he posted the following column:
    Army Report Says Christians Threaten US Foreign Policy
    By Chuck Baldwin April 14, 2010
    P.S. I am very sorry that a hacker has inflicted serious disruption to the server that hosts my web site, Chuck Baldwin Live. As a result, my site is temporarily off line. We hope to have this situation resolved within the next day or two. In the meantime, you can access a skeleton version of my web site at: http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/homebackup/
    This column is temporarily archived at:
    http://newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin582.htm
    SOMEONE put him out of business.
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    John Hassey: the public face of Alabama's militia movement.
    No Wiki Page and the only other hits referrence the SPLC hit piece!!!
    Orly Taitz
    Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    This page was last modified on 22 April 2010 at 08:02.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories
    SOMEONE has been quite busy lately. If you want to know anything about these people, other than what was published in this piece, you will have to do some really deep digging to find any thing that hasn't been scrubbed that might disagree with the SPLC condemnation. Good Luck With that one. As far as I've been able to determine, it's ALL gone. Based on what I've found, and NOT found, they've convinced me but, then again, it's not my list. Free speech? No Internet controls or propaganda agendas??? And these folks have the audacity to condemn China!!!!!!! Give me a break!!!!


    Yeah, well I just haven't been able to go on much of a long walk since I haven't really had a chance too and which is just me saying that I am doing other things and need a break for a bit, but am actually really busy at the moment.
    Concerning trust, that was in reference to your character and judgment not to post arbitrarily without verification; now I realize that we really dont know each other however we can can trust one another to a point as I wouldn't expect any of us to trust the other completely because of which.
    I too of course would never "take anyone's word for it" without verifying the information and put it to the test as I have been doing with other potential candidates and research each one until I cant find any reason to keep them off the list; however I am still always vigilant and this list should be everyone's endeavor and responsibility and not just mine being that it is so important as this is for all of us by and for the Republic.
    I would give you select few more of a benefit of the doubt based on your character and similar beliefs from your posts and such and would trust that the others with us would also verify the information and quickly bring the scythe to any that are not worthy to be on the list just as I would.
    I am actually a naturally suspicious person and always watching and on the defense just in case as we all should be, as the dopplegangers that I spoke of in the beginning are real and dangerous.
    Anyway back to the batcave for a while.
    Lets raise up our glasses against the evil british empire and federal police state.
    Regards.
    Tiocfaidh ?r l?
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  • pickenup
    In a related thread.....

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=454297
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  • buffalobo
    I like the fact that the vote I cast in the last presidential election was for the guy at the top of that list.

    I posted some links to his bio and web site in a thread over in politics if anyone wants to more about him.

    quote:Chuck Baldwin
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Baldwin

    http://www.newswithviews.com/baldwin/baldwin205.htm

    http://www.biography.com/articles/Chuck-Baldwin-377168
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  • 7.62x39Lover
    Who besides me wants Ron Paul to run for POTUS again?
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  • Werwolf
    quote:Originally posted by 7.62x39Lover
    Who besides me wants Ron Paul to run for POTUS again?


    Any true supporter of the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment.
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  • Werwolf
    While Huckabee may be guilty of amnesty before that was entirely wrong and if so he apparently has corrected himself; however it would be somewhat understable for a vicar to do so given their profession, although I do not advocate amnesty whatsoever and believe that anyone that does not have the legal right to be here be immediately deported and barred from re-entering, I also support walls and barbed wire to the south including using the national guard to protect our borders from aliens.
    Tancredo supported closing the "gunshow loop hole",
    however its not a "loop hole" it is simply every Americans right to buy and sell firearms and is just another anti-constitutional gun grab from the left.
    Tancredo voted yes on decreasing the gun-waiting period from 3 days to 1,
    although that is still un-constitutional and there should be no waiting period as it serves no purpose and is about as effective as a restraining order.
    Tancredo supported Romney after ending his running for potus, have no idea why any true supporter of the Constitution and the 2nd Amendment would support a known liberal anti-constitutional gun-grabber.
    Tancredo rails against illegal immigrants, but then "unknowingly" hires them to renovate his mansion even though some couldn't speak any English; on a side note seems strange as to why public servants need mansions and such obviously paid for with taxpayer money or some other public funding no doubt, kind of removes the "public servant" altogether and conjures up a feudal system past.
    Tancredo is suspected of avoiding the draft by stating that he had mental illness, if that is true then he shouldn't be in a position of leadership especially by running for the potus.
    Tancredo after being a devout long time Roman Catholic of an Italian family changes to Presbyterian; now while that is his own business and his right it is a serious change in life that brings into question what else might he change his mind on.
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  • Werwolf
    True Constitutionalists or Opportunistic Rating Seeker Progressives; if you think this is wrong then let me know however there is evidence that shows otherwise; unfortunately after researching old and new information have found the following to be sensationalist Opportunistic Rating Seeker Progressives and more interested in making money than truly supporting the Constitution including removing one from the list that apparently didn't belong or there were questions that called the individuals character into question. I am not surprised however and it goes to show as I have always felt imho that the celebrity types are bad candidates as public servants or to even be involved in politics at all and that includes Reagan and Schwarzenegger as well as some others although I am always willing to give a person a chance until they hang themselves with their own rope as it were. This is too bad though as several actually seemed to have potential, but decided to squander it and seem more interested in their own desires, opportunities, wealth and welfare rather than our Constitution and Republic and so we as Constitutionalists are therefore obligated to not support them knowingly thereafter.

    Glenn Beck
    Sean Hannity
    Bill O'Reilly
    Anne Coulter
    Sarah Palin
    Chuck Norris
    Ted Nugent
    Michael Savage
    Jesse Ventura
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  • dthhal
    quote:Originally posted by fyrfinder
    quote:Originally posted by Werwolf
    Not sure why GOA is giving Jeff Flake (R) AZ. an A-, hopefully they will start listing the reasons for the grades that they are giving since it really doesn't tell us much.


    Sure can't see anything on the site that shows where he stood on any issues that would rate a checkered flag. Going to be interesting to see how the vote goes in Arizona today on the "new, improved, immigration bill".

    [?]


    Werwolf, I would like to have Jeff Flake (R-AZ) re-looked at for your list. Freedom Index has him at 100% on important issues. Here is a link to a post kimi had on the GD side.
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=456651
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  • Werwolf
    quote:Originally posted by dthhal
    quote:Originally posted by fyrfinder
    quote:Originally posted by Werwolf
    Not sure why GOA is giving Jeff Flake (R) AZ. an A-, hopefully they will start listing the reasons for the grades that they are giving since it really doesn't tell us much.

    Sure can't see anything on the site that shows where he stood on any issues that would rate a checkered flag. Going to be interesting to see how the vote goes in Arizona today on the "new, improved, immigration bill".[?]

    Werwolf, I would like to have Jeff Flake (R-AZ) re-looked at for your list. Freedom Index has him at 100% on important issues. Here is a link to a post kimi had on the GD side.
    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=456651


    Very well, Some of the information concerning prospective candidates comes from the GOA, SAF, OTI and other known Pro Constitution or related information sites and is based on fact and research. This isn't my list nor does it belong to any one person nor can we rely on just one person for answers or direction and must constantly be vigilant, as this is all of our responsibility and belongs to all true Patriots of the Constitution, the Republic and the Second Amendment and those that uphold these things should be honored for all to see just as those that do not should be looked upon with disdain.
    Unfortunately however my time for investigation and research is somewhat limited and effects some of the turnout to the list.
    So other true Constitutionalists being involved in this endeavor would help and Pickenup can add to the list so long as prospective individuals have been scrutinized by investigation and research by forum members such as for example; Pickenup, Highball and other CA's, myself and other known non-interpretive, non-compromising, true Constitutionalists, as well as always weighing the evidence for yourself.
    I too would like to know why some are rated at an A or A-, but no explanation is given as to why and will try and look into this more so.
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  • dthhal
    Thanks. I respect all those you mention here and am grateful for the efforts each put in concerning our Constitutional rights. As you state, non-interpretive, non-compromising, true Constitutionalists will save this country!
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  • Goatroper
    Deleted my suggestion of Rick Boucher (D-VA). He's a 2A friend, but not so much on other issues. Sorry.
    Originally posted by Werwolf
    There have been lists of officials and other recognized individuals that don't support the Constitution, however I think that we need a list of officials and other recognized individuals that do and to constantly be scrutinizing these individuals as well in order to hopefully insure that no doppelgangers get on board surreptitiously, it is our responsibility to educate the masses.
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