max distance for 12 ga.
anyone have a good idea the max distance a 12 ga. trap load will carry. I'm looking for a place to teach my daughter to shoot clay birds but she doesn't want to go to public range until she can at least break a few. says she doesn't want to embarass herself. Thanks for any help you may offer.
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IIRC the standard trap load has a max pellet range of 250 yards with ideal conditions. Any distance over 125 the shot feels like rain if it hits you. 0 -
just remember it is the shot size that is important to distance- not the velocity. previous answer exactly correct with shot size 7 1/2 or smaller -hi base or not. stay away from the #6 and larger if concerned about distance. 0 -
Does the public range have a youth training program? She would be with others of similar skill and often they are free or very low cost. Actually from what I have seen gals tend to get off to a better start than guys do. I started my son with hand throw clays (literaly..hand thrown) then went to a mechanical thrower tossing straight out and flat,eventually adding height and angles. He picked up real fast. 0 -
Here is a sort of definitive answer:
http://www.rangeinfo.org/resource_library/resLibDoc.cfm?filename=facility_mngmnt/design/how_far_will.htm
I think the bottom line is that under ideal conditions (eg 45 degree flight path, tailwind) the pellets could potentially carry as far as 300 yards.
But they probably aren't capable of serious injury much past 100 yards.
I've actually seen standard clay #7.5 12 gauge pellets bounce right off a duck at about 70 yards. The duck barely even seemed annoyed, and just kept swimming like nothing had happened!
For your daughter, I think you might be amazed how fast she could be breaking clays. If she's so super-sensitive, maybe take her out there one day when not a lot of people are around.0 -
they don't have youth training but they do cater to new shooters quite well. it's just a matter of convincing her that we all had our first time at the range.
thanks for all the good feedback!0 -
quote:Originally posted by mbm45
says she doesn't want to embarass herself.
First, welcome to the board.
Second, I've been shooting for half my life and I still find new ways to embarass myself! [:I] Make sure your daughter knows it happens to all of us and don't let that keep her from improving her abilities. New shooters are key to RTKBA. Any jerk wad that would even think to belittle someone over that should be taken aside and pistol whipped.0 -
I agree 250-350 yards when fired at an angle. 0 -
I sure agree with Badchris, Even with all the straights Ive shot I still manage to blow a few rounds.( I mean badly)I took a friend to the trap range awhile ago and with all my help he missed all 25,yet we had a great time and NOBODY said a word in fact I don't think they noticed.99% of all shotgunners know what she is feeling we have all been there.Our youngsters are the future of our sport.Good luck 0 -
I'd start on station 7 and use the low house - directly away from shooter. Much easier than rushing the shot if the clay is coming at you.
quote:Originally posted by forgemonkey
,,,,,you might take her to a skeet range and ask to let her shoot by herself,,,,,only use station #1 and have a bird from the low house fly straight toward her,,,,when her confidence elevates then try a bird going away,,,,,,,,,,tried this with my daughter and her friend,,,,,next thing you know they asked to try some of the angle birds from #2 station,,,,,,amazed how fast they caught on and thier skill level became very good,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,0 -
quote:Originally posted by badchris
New shooters are key to RTKBA. Any jerk wad that would even think to belittle someone over that should be taken aside and pistol whipped.
I'd have to agree there as well. The only "sphere-busting" I've EVER seen on ranges has been good-natured between experienced shooters (and that's part of the fun!).
I don't ever remember in my life ever seeing an experienced shooter laughing/belittling a novice for poor performance, let alone a novice who is a young woman! But I have seen the contrary MANY times. . .with experienced shooters going out of their way to help and encourage new ones.
Whenever I see novice shooters, if I get a sense that they are responsible, I'll usually offer to let them try any guns I have present. With kids, I'll convey the offer to their parents, if it seems appropriate.
The only other thing I'll add here, is that you didn't mention how old/big your daughter is. If she's small in stature, a full-sized shotgun may be difficult to handle, and she might be better served with a smaller-than-standard stock length or even gauge.0
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