9MM Luger
So I have several Luger's, two are 9MM, one 30 and one 22. Both of the 9's jam constantly. Tried different mags, several different ammo and ammo weights, even a box of +P. At the range one guy said "They just ain't broke in". The one is vintage WW2 - how could it not be "broke in"?
I could understand the American Eagle stainless, but not the WW2 one.
Any ideas?? Thanx
I could understand the American Eagle stainless, but not the WW2 one.
Any ideas?? Thanx
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Lugers are finicky guns. I had one years ago that would only fire Canadian or WWII surplus ammo without jamming. 0 -
If your having consistent problems even though using different magazines and ammo, best to take it to a knowledgeable gunsmith for a hands-on. Lugers are touchy, beasts that why the Germans numbered all the parts, that were hand fitted together.
I would check the function of the extractor with dummie rounds though. Make sure it's not binding when feeding cartridges from the magazine. It's spring loaded and suppose to snap over the rim of the cartridge as the breech block goes into battery. Broken/binding extractors are a major fail for Lugers.0 -
Hey rufe-snow !!!
If they are a pain, send them to me (hahahahaha)?_?.
Good feed-back from the others and to just add one more, check the barrel .. If it was replaced, chance?_Ts are you have a head-space problem.. Does it stove-pipe when feeding into battery ??? Easy fix with the right gages?_?
Good Luck !!!
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I hate to sound bad, but did you try some oil or other lubricant? 0 -
Lugers need full power ammo.
Tame loads will give you jams.
124gr rnfmj bullets should be most reliable.
Take the Luger apart,including grips, and give it a thorough lube job on all pivoting & sliding surfaces and the extractor.
Lugers prefer the safety of the original totally enclosed, military holster that have an elevator to raise them from a dry, dust and dirt free environment.
They can be very accurate but Uncle Sam rejected them in the early 1900s
as unsuitable for a military weapon on several counts of unreliability.0 -
quote:Originally posted by berdes
So I have several Luger's, two are 9MM, one 30 and one 22. Both of the 9's jam constantly. Tried different mags, several different ammo and ammo weights, even a box of +P. At the range one guy said "They just ain't broke in". The one is vintage WW2 - how could it not be "broke in"?
I could understand the American Eagle stainless, but not the WW2 one.
Any ideas?? Thanx
Is your American Eagle type a Stoeger? I have the 6" version and it works perfectly with 147 FMJ of any brand.0 -
Well my son bought a ruger 9mm and the thing would short cycle. So sent it back they replaced the ejector but also noticed they lubed the gun to death. Myself I never lube a gun much but it made a difference. After shooting it a bit we found out it likes hot ammo and we lube it specially at points where there are rub marks. This seems to make a world of difference in its overall performance. 0 -
Thanks for the replies everyone, gives me some things to try.
Any recommendation on the type of lube? Using a combo cleaner/lube for now.0 -
I concur with v35! European ammo is much "hot" and standard American 9mm ammo. The Luger was design by Germans for German ammo, you don't have it then the Luger WILL give you problems! 0 -
Just found this, now it's off to search for some:
It is an interesting artifact of post-World War II ammunition development that in the United States, Lugers have often been maligned as being unreliable and prone to jamming. This is because typical factory-spec American 9 mm ammunition is nowhere near as hot as German military-spec ammunition-modern loadings in Europe are typically closer to old military loads. Currently the ammunition which Lugers were designed for falls into +P or +P+ SAAMI specs for 9 mm ammunition.0
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