Cyq P-38
My wife and I had some extra time this afternoon before heading over to the West side for car club. So, I stopped at a pawn shop I hadn't been to for some time. The only WWII pistol they had was a cyq P-38. There were some unusual things about it I thought I'd pass on. Most of the pistol was a silver gray finish, with the tooling marks visible. Frame, slide, etc. The bbl was blued with a few pits showing, and the stamped "cover" on the slide was also showing some polished light pitting. Bbl had the correct two digit serial #. Grips were regular WWII style but unusual in that they were black with silver and gold accents in the ridges.
Except for the two pieces mentioned, the finish seems near mint original with matching #s ALL over the piece. I am sorry that I didn't catch the date, as they were getting ready to close. From the little I know about the later P-38s, is this a near the end of the war run? What about those strangely colored grips? Should I jump in the car tomorrow and go pick it up? It is priced under the market without dickering at under five hundred bucks. As I remember, cyq was a Mauser code.
Except for the two pieces mentioned, the finish seems near mint original with matching #s ALL over the piece. I am sorry that I didn't catch the date, as they were getting ready to close. From the little I know about the later P-38s, is this a near the end of the war run? What about those strangely colored grips? Should I jump in the car tomorrow and go pick it up? It is priced under the market without dickering at under five hundred bucks. As I remember, cyq was a Mauser code.
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Hi,
If I am not mistaken cyq is the code for Spreewerke.
Also if I recall correctly, the Spreewerke P-38s are usually the least desirable as a collector item and are the least expensive of WWII era P-38s, due to the quality of machining on the weapon.
Regards,
Heavyiron0 -
The Cyq P 38's weren't made by Mauser, they were made by the Spreewerke Company whose factory was located in a Berlin suburb. They weren't dated like the Mauser and Walther P 38's.
With the pitting it doesn't seem that <$500 is that great of a deal, to me. Generally Spreewerke P 38's are of cruder workmanship and finish then Mauser and Walther guns of the same era, and don't command the same prices.0 -
Heavyiron is correct, cyq pistols are the least desirable.
But, a $500 one would be free of rust & pitting, & would have a dark blue/black finish on all metal. The gun you describe sounds abused, neglected, & Bubba has had his way with it. Hardly "mint". If I had one that bad, I'd jump at the chance to dump it for $250.
Neal0 -
Thanks for the replies. Maybe I didn't make my self clear. The "pits" were few in number...Like three or four divided between the bbl and the cover. Not an abused piece. May have been what couldn't be polished out, and these were only on the bbl and the slide cover. Everything else appeared original with the tool marks the only thing under the finish of the rest of the pistol. But, if the cyq is the least desirable of the production, the question is moot. Thanks again for helping out. BW. 0
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