Beretta 92F vs Glock 17
What are your opinions on the Beretta 92F vs the Glock 17. Which is better and why. Thanks Don
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Both are highly reliable 9mm luger service-type pistols, used by a large number of military and police agencies all over the world.
In terms of differences, the Beretta frame is made of aluminum, has a relatively fat grip, and uses an external safety with double/single action. Beretta uses external grip panels which could be replaced (eg with wood ones, if you liked). Beretta is available in black or stainless steel.
The Glock frame is made of polymer (ie plastic), it has a unique grip angle (not that this is a bad thing), lacks an external safety lever, and uses a proprietary action that is somewhere in between a true single action and a true double action. Glock also is a simpler design with fewer moving parts. Glock is available in black. New Glocks have an interchangeable grip insert.
If you're a cop or soldier and are issued your gun, you don't get to choose.
If you do get to choose, the "better" gun is simply whichever one you like better. They both do the same thing; it comes down to which feels better in your hand, and which action type you like. If appearance matters to you, you could look at that as well.
Personally, given the choice between those two pistols, I'll take a CZ-75 [;)].0 -
Beantown is correct as usual. I would also point out some implications of what he said in terms of carrying concealed:
Think about whether you are comfortable carrying a gun with no safety (Glock). The Beretta has a decocking safety so you have the option to carry chambered w/safety, or chambered w/ double action pull for the first shot.
Also think about the draw from concealment. The Glock is smoother with less angles and edges to get snagged on clothing.0 -
The Burrito is 70s technology.
The Glock is 80s technology.
Simple=better. I've had dozens of damn Burritos apart and they are a complete pain in the ass. More little frail springs and tiny pins to get lost, twisted, tweaked, damaged etc...The glock is a soul-less hammer of a pistol. Ugly as a mud fence, but utterly reliable.
The Burrito is pretty. I like the way it looks. It's one of my top 3 pics for aesthetic beauty in a personal sidearm. Right up there with the BHP and Smith 5906.0 -
As a owner and shooter of both, I'd say it comes down to a personal choice. I like both and find there is no reliability between either as long as fed good ammo. 0 -
I love both, for different reasons.
One thing I will say is that, despite knowing how good the Glock is, I still prefer an actual external safety.
That said, I did find that sometimes when drawing the 92F from a holster, the safety would catch on the inside and 'come off' as the lever pulled along the inside of the holster.
I also preferred the Beretta's open ejection port and it's Fat-Arse grip
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quote:Originally posted by DRP-AZ
The Burrito is 70s technology.
The Glock is 80s technology.
Actually, the Beretta is 1950s technology, being that it is based on the Model 951 Brigadier. That does not make it bad. A century-old design (the Model of 1911/Government Model) seems to be doing just fine.
I do not like the grip angle of the Glock, and do not like the lack of a safety. The occasional blowup is also of some concern.0 -
quote:Originally posted by JudgeColt
quote:Originally posted by DRP-AZ
The Burrito is 70s technology.
The Glock is 80s technology.
Actually, the Beretta is 1950s technology, being that it is based on the Model 951 Brigadier. That does not make it bad. A century-old design (the Model of 1911/Government Model) seems to be doing just fine.
I do not like the grip angle of the Glock, and do not like the lack of a safety. The occasional blowup is also of some concern.
The Beretta suffered from blowup issues too. Different blowups than the glock but just as dangerous or more so.
Early 92F pistols had a bad problem of having their slides fly off into the face of the soldiers shooting them. Not a good thing.0 -
Well haveing put a goodish amount of ammo down range with both of them, In my opinion its like apples and oranges.
The Beretta is an all metal pistol with a five inch barrel and a long sight radious.. The gun is heavy enough that even with the last five rounds in the mag it is very very controlable. When it gets dirty, it stops shooting.. The 92 has very tight tolerances, and an open slide, and it is a grit magnet if one gets alittle lube happy. If you are gonna carry one concealed keep in mind it weights quite a bit, and a "stainless" version is best due to the fact its gonna get sweat on it. Take down is very easy for cleaning.
The glock 17 is a lightweight gun even when loaded to capacity, it gets snappy on the last few rounds and the sights arent as fine as the berettas but still, they are very servicable.. The glock is very reliable. Just the thing for a full sized concealed carry pistol. The downsides to me is its alittle more agrovating to take down because of the tiny little take down tabs, and it only has one safty, and its it the trigger, and a five to seven pound two stage trigger. One thing about it, it doesnt weight down a belt like the beretta 92 or 1911.
out of the two if I had to carry one concealed I'd pick the Glock, It is very light weight, reliable, it has an inclosed slide, and it is more then accurate enough for most every use a hand gun is needed for.
I am fond of the Beretta however, it is a very nice pistol, and if you had said to make a comparison between the glock and the CZ P-01 compact or CZ-75B, My answer would be very different.. I'd pick one of those two, as they are very nice pistols.0 -
I have and shoot both, and they are both good workhorses. My personal taste for a duty weapon would be the Beretta, but if I were going to supply a force where the firearms usage had been minimal, and there was training involved...and just sometimes for myself, I like the Glock. It is almost like a high capacity double action revolver, but does not have a second strike option.
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I'll just keep it short and simple. There is a reason the US army just rewarded beretta with a 23 million dollar contract for the m9(92fs). 0
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