Optics Question For AR
I was wandering what the difference in uses are between the EOtech Series, Aimpoint Comps, and Trijicon acogs? I have an DPMS Lite 16 flat top and Im not quite sure what I want. I am most interested in personal expieriences and likes and dislikes, Any and all opinions are appreciated. As always thank you.
0
-
They are all pretty much the same they are all more or less grouped into the same category as a battle sight. The Trijicon Acog is actually set up to be effective for a greater distance depending on which type of reticle you get. I probably would used them for any thing more than 200 yards except for the Trijicon and again it depends which reticle it comes with. Eotech does make a sight for 5.56/ .308 that has a series of dots in a vertical pattern that is supposed to act like a bullet drop compensator but I believe that comes on one specific model.
In other words all 3 of them are great but I'd lean towards the Trijicon.0 -
The three you mentioned are all very good. The EOtech and Aimpoints take batteries. The advantage of the Acog is it does not, BUT the price is quite a bit higher. Some Aimpoints have to use a mount that doesn't come with them. There are different models in all three sights. Go to a big gun show and look all of them over and get the one you like best.
WATCH OUT FOR CHEAP FAKES[B)][xx(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Jerecole
I was wandering what the difference in uses are between the EOtech Series, Aimpoint Comps, and Trijicon acogs? I have an DPMS Lite 16 flat top and Im not quite sure what I want. I am most interested in personal expieriences and likes and dislikes, Any and all opinions are appreciated. As always thank you.
The EOtechs use a holographic reticle. The advantage is that if part of the field of view is blocked (say by dirt), the entire reticle pattern is still recreated holographically. These have no magnification.
The Aimpoints have a more traditional simple dot reticle and run for what seems to be forever on one battery (ie more than a full year continuous runtime, meaning you don't ever have to turn it off). Some of these are pretty light/tiny. These also seem to work well if you want to chain optics in a row (eg to add magnifiers, night vision, etc).
The ACOGs are expensive, but use fiber-optic and tritium filled luminous elements to ensure that the sight always lights up without batteries or even electronic components.
On a first appoximation (dot type sights for close combat) these all do more or less the same thing, and the differences between them come down to what exactly you're trying to do and personal preference.
Which one you "want" depends mostly on which one you LIKE better, and your budget. But ALL of the ones you mention are pretty strong, reliable, and well-regarded units that soldiers and cops trust their lives to.0 -
Thank you all for your help. Heading to cabelas tommorrow to take a look. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by Jerecole
I was wandering what the difference in uses are between the EOtech Series, Aimpoint Comps, and Trijicon acogs? I have an DPMS Lite 16 flat top and Im not quite sure what I want. I am most interested in personal expieriences and likes and dislikes, Any and all opinions are appreciated. As always thank you.
Another nice red dot is the valdada RDS, It has all the right features, and some you wont find on any of the sights you have listed. I have one and it is pretty much just like a Aimpoint M2 with finger adjustable windage and elecvation.
Eotechs come in four basic configurations, and there are several variants of each configuration.
XPS2/XPS3
511/551
512/552/EOLAD
517/557
XPS2/511/512/ and 517 models are not night vision compatable, XPS3/ 551/ 552/ EOLAD/ and models are night vision compatable. Some basic information on each then..
The 5-1 and 5-2 models where the first models. The 5-2 models use AA batteries, and have a 600 hour battery life with non lithium batteries/1,000 hours with lithium AA batteries. In my opinion the newer 5-7 models battery compartments are raised so as to make forward mounting easier are better then the older 5-2 models. Unless the rifle its going to be mounted on has a railed forearm.
5-1 models are more compact then 5-2 models because they use a smaller battery and have been made obsolete by the XPS configuration in my opinion.
The EOLAD is a 552 with an integral red laser made by laser products, and off shoot from Surefire.
the 557 has a reticle designed as a bullet drop compinsator.
I like the 512 and the xps2 for general use. The 557 reticle is alittle cluttered, but with a magnifier it works the way it is advertised well enough.
Aimpoints: I am not going to go into all the models because there are alot of them, other then to discribe in a concise manor the comps. comp/comp2/comp3/ and comp4
Comp has a 1000 hour battery life on lowest setting, and dot intensity is for all intents and peruposes only useful past the 5th setting in daylight. uses a small DL1/3N battery.
Comp2 has a 10,000 hour battery life on its lowest daylight setting. the dot intensity problems are also adressed in this model, makeing it much more usable. uses a small DL1/3N battery
Comp3 has a 50,000 hour battery life on its nominal daylight setting, and an extra bright setting.DL1/3N
Comp4 has a 80,000 hour battery life and uses AA batteries
H1 is a small compact red dot. It hsa about the same battery life as the comp4, and weights about 4 oz.
Out of the aimpoint models I'd pick the ML3 or the H1 and a lower half or 3rd cowitness mount from midwest industries or Larue Tactical. They have good long battery lives and are simple and easy to use.
Acogs come in two basic sized, Compact Acogs and Acogs, the compact Acogs are best for exclusive mounting on carry handle uppers in my opinion. If you have a Flat top AR-15 with a barrel over say 12" long, The full sized acog is better. My advice on them is look no farther then the TA11, it is the best of the lot when it comes to useing the BAC. I like just a basic red chevron BDC reticle.
All of the sights covered are water proof and shock proof, and they all have their weaknesses. The EOTechs buttons can be agrovating. The aimpoint can induce tunnel vision and the sight picture can get cluttered if you dont pick your rear sight and mount carefully. Trijicon acogs are not the greatest choice when shooting up close inside 10-20 yards, no magnified scope on the market is IMHO.
A red dot and a magnifier or and acog with a mini red dot on the ocular houseing, they all have their trade offs, I'd advise you to try them and see which set up you like best.
There is more to a well set up carbine then just a good red dot. A equally good light and Back Up Iron Sight are just as important. as well as good trigger.
Those three things will make an Ar-15 into a handy gun for all jobs.
You picked a good carbine by the way..0
Please sign in to leave a comment.
Comments
5 comments