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From your photos you have a Type 99 Japanese military rifle. The other one appears to be what U.S. collectors term a Zulu gun. This was a French breech loading black powder rifle that was sold in the U.S. as a utility shotgun during the late 19th Century.
The Japanese rifle might have some collector value depending on originality and cosmetics. The Zulu is just a Wall Hanger/Conversation Piece with little or no value.0 -
Your T-99 Arisaka is a fairly late configuration w/ intact Imperial Chrysanthemum. This means that it was captured, as opposed to a surrendered piece (on these, Mums were obliterated/defaced). The rough tool/router markings on the stock's wrist area are known a "beaver chewing": a slang term that some collectors use to describe the poorly-finished nature of these beasts. Some guys go nuts over it, others could care less. I happen to prefer it 'cuz of it's character.
If possible, pls post a close-up of the symbols stamped next to the rifle's s/n & we can thus tell you where it was made. If the original bolt is present, it's s/n will match that on the receiver & value could thus be higher.0 -
Didn't MacArthur order US soldiers to deface the mum as a mark of respect for the emperor, when they surrendered? I think it is not necessarily captured. 0 -
Sore shoulder- No. Weapons captured have the mum intact. Weapons turned in after the surrender of Japan were to have the mum ground off. 0 -
Your Japanese rifle is a Type 99. Likely battlefield capture due to intact Mum on top of receiver. If you can post some clear pics of marking on left side of receiver, I can tell you which series and give approx MFG date. Do all numbers match? CHeck bottom of of bolt handle to see if 3 digits match last 3 of serial on receiver. All other number found should match in same way. 0 -
Thanks for all the information, happens that I found both of these guns in my grandfathers garage. Would like to see them go to someone who can appreciate them! It seems that all the numbers on the gun match as well.[img]javascript:gotoSlideShow('http://www5.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=4108888014/PictureID=177480725014/a=119654962_119654962/')[/img][img]javascript:gotoSlideShow('http://www5.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=4108888014/PictureID=177480726014/a=119654962_119654962/')[/img][img]javascript:gotoSlideShow('http://www5.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=4108888014/PictureID=177480728014/a=119654962_119654962/')[/img][img]javascript:gotoSlideShow('http://www5.snapfish.com/slideshow/AlbumID=4108888014/PictureID=177480729014/a=119654962_119654962/')[/img] 0 -
Ok, got a better look. Your rifle is a Kokura Arsenal, Series # 24 Type 99 Arisaka. It falls into the early
Transitional" category. IMO late 1942 to early 1943 mfg.
To explain further, T-99's fall into 3 basic groups. Early, as in early war. "Transitional" or "Substitute" for mid war. And "Last Ditch" for late war. What these are, are basically descriptions of the quality changes in MFG as the war went progressively bad for Japan. There were 38 series of several different arsenals. Each Series consisted in 100K rifles.
"Early" T-99 were of very good MFG, and had all the extra accessories included. Which include Monopod, Anti Aircraft sights, Long cleaning rod, and steel buttplate.
Transitional rifles were still of generally good quality, but Mfg begining to be rougher. And began to deletion of the accessories. As we see on yours. "Last Ditch" had no accessories and were of poor MFG quality. In fact questionable as to how safe to fire.
Series 24 rifles are at the beginning of the transitional phase. Early S-24's had all accessories. About 1/2 thru the series run, accessories began to be deleted. As we see w/you Plain barrel band (IE: Not monopod type) and lack of Anti Aircraft "Wings" on the Anti Aircraft type rear sight.0
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