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  • nononsense
    Yes, I know they're big but at least we can see some of the detail...


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    Does anyone have any idea about this gun? Make, age, caliber, value?
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  • cnsay
    Make: home made, rough finishing and hand cut unevenly spaced grooves and checkering.
    Age: 60+ years, guessing by the patina.
    Caliber: wouldn't be brave enough to load it. Handmade look calls barrel strength into question. Barrel looks bent.
    Value: not much. Unless it could be traced to a known maker as a prototype or their first try at making a pistol.

    Not much to go on. Slide is numbered from 1 to 9 on one side and from 10 to 1 on the other, what looks like serial number of 901000. That may have been date of manufacture, as in Sept. 1 1900 or something significant only to the maker. With no name on it I would doubt there is any way to track it back to who made it.

    If the original poster maybe knows who had it, where it came from as far as passed down in the family or estate sale purchase. That info may help, but I'm thinking for once having good quality pics may not be enough to crack the case on this one.
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  • babun
    Not too definite, but I think you got a crude South African copy of a Webley/scott 1909-1937 police model. It sure looks like some one"s knock off with machining short cuts and "ease of manufacturing" changes.
    ????? Bob
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  • rufe-snow
    Chinese/East Asian? copy/replica of Spanish Star Model 1 pistol. Usually their chambered for the .32 ACP cartridge, occasionally for the 30 Mauser. These were made by many different small manufacturers/arsenals and vary greatly between individual pistols.
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  • upjumtddebl
    With the exception of the trigger guard being added it looks like a rough copy of a Spanish JO.LO.AR automatic pistol
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  • rufe-snow
    This is a photo of one of the later Star pistols made after the Model 1. It doesn't have the 6" long barrel of the Model 1. You can see how the Chinese patterned their knock-offs on it.


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  • Hardrada55
    Very similar but not an exact match to numbers 1542, 1543 or 1544 in Zhuk's Illustrated Encyclopedia of Handguns.
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  • Hawk Carse
    Looks like a village blacksmith pistol.
    Probably Asian, the gunsmiths of Darra, Pakistan do nicer work.
    I think it is what is known as a Caodai pistol made in Viet Nam.
    No way to know the caliber for sure but it might even be 7.62x25.
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  • BigLoop22
    jjohe,

    Hawk Carse used some magic words: "Cao Dai pistol". They, plus Google, yielded this discussion of those pistols, which I find interesting:

    {Elsewhere}
    There are some pictures of one such pistol, there.
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by BigLoop22
    jjohe,

    Hawk Carse used some magic words: "Cao Dai pistol". They, plus Google, yielded this discussion of those pistols, which I find interesting:

    {Elsewhere}

    There are some pictures of one such pistol, there.


    I use to own what was termed a Cao Dai pistol. These were guns that were made in Viet Nam during the 50's & 60's by the Cao Dai religious sect and others. The pistol pictured in the firing line forum as well as JJOHE's, are completely different and are very distinctive in construction. They are from China rather then Viet Nam like the Cao Dai's.
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