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Darmstadt 7.7 mm rifle

jmschlim
As part of my fathers estate I have a Single shot Darmstadt rifle. I recall him telling me that it was made by a Robert Hubner in Darmstadt Germany. Anyone know anything about these rifles. Thanks
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  • jonk
    No... but it is probably 7.9 mm as that was the German military service round from 1888-1905, and in a modified form through WW2.

    I'm sure someone will chime in with more info.
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  • rufe-snow
    Need quality photos for identification and valuation.

    Here are instructions for posting photos in the forum.

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=259294
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  • jmschlim
    Well I listed the Darmstadt here on GB it is the only one so its easy to find. It has been bid so it will sell, but I am courious about the rifle. If anyone has any information about Darmstadt's (if that is the proper identifier) I would be interested. A bidder has asked for ammo for the gun. He said that it is probably a 8.15mm and that in Germany the measured the case rather then the projectile, or something like that. But then I ask why would the gun have 7.7 stamped on the barrel. It just seems like a very interesting rifle and I am glad someone who can and might be able to use it will win it. I am more interested in why it was made (single shot) dual triggers, and it is a very small gun. Any info about the darmstadt guns would be appriciated. Thanks
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  • rufe-snow
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=175778996


    Darmstadt is the name of the city in Germany where the gunsmith who made the rifle had his business.

    The rifle/carbine appears to me to be a light stalking type to me. This is the standard type that the Germans used for hunting Roe deer and other smaller game animals. I doubt very seriously if it's chambered for the rimless 8 X 57 rimless military cartridge. It would really make your eyes water shooting something like in a light single shot rifle/carbine. Probably chambered for a rimmed lightly loaded sporting cartridge like the 8 X 51R or something similar.

    Many of these sporting rifles/carbines were brought back after the war by G.I.'s as souvenirs. They have much greater value in modern day Germany then in the U.S., specially if they are in factory original, very good condition, as yours appears to be.
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  • jmschlim
    Were there many gunsmiths from Darmstadt? Does the inscription "Roe Huener Hofbuchsenmacher-Meister" mean anything? I cannot find a date or code to determine age. It would be neat to find out if someone brought it back as a prize or if it were built for someone specific? What is the point of the 2 triggers?
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by jmschlim
    Were there many gunsmiths from Darmstadt? Does the inscription "Roe Huener Hofbuchsenmacher-Meister" mean anything? I cannot find a date or code to determine age. It would be neat to find out if someone brought it back as a prize or if it were built for someone specific? What is the point of the 2 triggers?


    Huener was the name of the gunsmith who made it. He was a master gunsmith for the royalty, per his title. The two triggers are "set" triggers. After the forward one is actuated, the rear trigger will release with just 4 ozs. of pressure. These type of "set" trigger were very popular with European hunters.
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