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  • B17-P51
    I know that there were many companies who made magazines for the military and they are marked on the spine. From my limited knowledge they only made 15 and 30 round mags for the military. I have seen on other sites where they are advertised as 10 rounders with military markings. Did the military in fact have 10 round mags or is this just a way to get around the round limitation on other sites.

    Secondly with so many mags out there I know they don't bring much money but are any of them more valuable than others and what would there markings be.
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  • dcs shooters
    Is it a, type IorIIorIII [?] Can you post a picture of the marking [?] That will help a lot [;)]
    It is most likley a Underwood, if the mark is right. See if the "I" might be a dot.
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  • RCrosby
    Bomber/Mustang,
    I'm writing primarily to get "in the loop" and to make sure I don't miss the answer when someone who really knows their carbines comes along. I checked my "NRA Reprint" on the carbine and can't find any reference to IU, or any plausable connection among the many listed manufacturers of war era carbines. Is this just the bolt you have, or is there a full weapon that goes with it, and if so, who made it?
    Pictures? (Which may be helpful if someone doesn't come along with an "Of course the IU stands for...... answer.)
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  • B17-P51
    I have a couple of whole guns, some other related stuff and this bolt, which was at the bottom of a box of S%%T that I bought at an auction. The tag on a string says "M1 or M2". The letters are on an ear of the bolt and are very small.I dont think my junky camera can capture them.
    Edit: Inland Universal was suggested today.
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  • nmyers
    Not a USGI marking. Could it be a partial OI (Inland)?

    Neal
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  • Laredo Lefty
    Underwood magazines are marked with an IU, so that would be my quess.
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  • mark christian
    IU is an Underwood bolt produced and provided to the company by Inland and these were, along with WU marked bolts (Winchester for Underwood) in use on the production line until early 1943 in Underwood carbines. Keep in mind that unlike the M1 Garand which was produced only by Springfield Armory and Winchester, neither of whom ever exchanged parts (and who actually disliked each other intensely), carbines were produced by a consortium of several manufacturers who freely exchanged parts with each other. Not a single person at a large gun show knew the answer to that simple carbine question? Shocking!
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  • oscat271
    mark christian,
    Not to get off topic, but didn't Harrington & Richardson also manufacture The U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1 ?
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  • dcs shooters
    H&R made a M1 Garand not a M1 carbine.
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by oscat271
    mark christian,
    Not to get off topic, but didn't Harrington & Richardson also manufacture The U.S. Rifle Cal. .30 M1 ?


    Yes they did, although all H&R rifle production, along with International Harvester was limited to the post war years. Springfiled Armory also resumed post war production of the M1 rifle, but Winchester production finished in 1945. Unlike WWII, where only Springfield Armory and Winchester produced the M1 rifle, there was at least limited exchanging of parts between the three M1 producers with both Springfield and HRA lending a hand to International Harvester, who had a number of problems during their production run.. No M1 carbines were produced after the close of WWII and US military carbine production ceased in 1945.
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  • B17-P51
    Thanks Mark, Mystery solved. Now any guesses to the value? I found some on the auction side for +/- 100.00 ( should have looked there first!)Does this seem right? Thanks in advance!
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