Barrel date on Model 70 pre 64
I took the barrel off a Model 70 today and the numbers on the bottom say 250 sav. 49-
My question is, does the 49 mean made in 1949?
Thank you
dan
My question is, does the 49 mean made in 1949?
Thank you
dan
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I always figured the 55 on the bottom of my barrel meant 1955.
Have to be a replacement or a receiver that got pushed to the back of the shelf because it is charted at 1942 by serial number.0 -
bad news here is............
receiver is 1954.
that the sound of $3500 to $1500 I hear?
if the barrel is 1949........0 -
quote:Originally posted by atvidaho
I took the barrel off a Model 70 today and the numbers on the bottom say 250 sav. 49-
My question is, does the 49 mean made in 1949?
Thank you
dan
Hello Dan,
In answer to your question, Yes, the barrel was made in 1949. However, that is not necessarily bad news in your case. For the rarer Model 70 calibers, it is not unheard of to find barrels that are a few years older than the receiver. Typically, Winchester manufactured items in batch orders, and then used them as needed. As such, it is not out of line to find a barrel that is older than the receiver. If it was the opposite situation (receiver older than the barrel by several years), then I would be a fair bit a more concerned.0 -
Bert H.
Thanks for the reply, that is interesting information about barrel supply. The bolt s/n matches the receiver, so is there any way to measure the bolt face (or whatever you call it,sorry) and/or contact someone with the s/n and find out what this gun started out life as in 1954?0 -
It could very well have started out the way you see it. Winchester did not scrap a barrel just because they had no immediate use for it. If they wanted a .250-3000 and there was a barrel in the bin, they used it--no matter the date.
And; out of curiousity, why did you take the barrel off?0 -
I didn't take it off, it's on the rifle. I am just being sure it is a true pre 64 Model 70 in this caliber before I commit to purchase.
It has a folding sight, which I think must have been installed so they could mount a scope back then and the barrel deal spooked me along with all the warnings in the gun blue books of "fake" 250 Savages in this model. I totally trust the seller, as I have known him and of these rifles for years, but this particular rifle he bought used and actually hunted with 45 years ago and he is just as concerned about it as I am. He is just selling off the rifles now late in life and all this time has thought he had a original piece.
Thanks for your reply.0 -
Winchester cataloged the 250-3000 until 1949. At that time they discontinued manufacturing new barrels for inventory. As they took barrels from old inventory, they used current production actions and stocks. In 1954 they shipped the last 300 in that caliber. The advent of the .243 after that eliminated demand for the 250. Incidentally, your 1949 barrel may be a blessing on a 1954 action as the front sight ramp is a forged part of the barrel. 1954 barrels had it soldered on. Seems you got one of the last factory standard 250's. It is most probably a factory standard variation 250-3000. A lot of this info can be found in Roger Rule's book -The Rifleman's Rifle-. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by atvidaho
Bert H.
Thanks for the reply, that is interesting information about barrel supply. The bolt s/n matches the receiver, so is there any way to measure the bolt face (or whatever you call it,sorry) and/or contact someone with the s/n and find out what this gun started out life as in 1954?
You are quite welcome[:)].
Unfortunately, there are no surviving records to verify the exact configuration for any of the pre-64 Model 70s. The information drl50 posted is the only reliabe piece of information available.0 -
45 years ago is 1965. Not likely anybody "faked" a .250-3000 back then. I bought a .243 Varmint model for $72 and a .270 standard with a Lyman scope for $105 around then. You have to remember that anybody who wanted a model 70 in the early 60's, wanted a .30/06. The "old" chamberings went begging. I remember seeing ads in the American Rifleman in those days, closing out model 70's in the unpopular .35 Rem. and .300 Savage chamberings! I think those old magazines (not the rifles, unfortunately!) are still out in the deer camp. 0 -
Thank you very much, Ambrose, Bert and drl50 for the wonderful help and information. We appreciate it. Also, it looks like I need to find a copy of Rule's book for more good info. Take care. 0
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