.45 acp .45 gap
is a 45 auto and 45 gap interchangeable in a gun. can i shoot a 45 gap in my 1911? i know the gap is alittle shorter and uses a small pistol primer, but other than the length would there be a problem shooting it in a 1911 .45?
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NO, they are not [B)] As both headspace on the case mouth, the GAP will go into a 45ACP. chamber too far. The extractor might hold a GAP and let i fire,BUT I wouldn't try it in one of my 45's [;)] 0 -
You should avoid the GAP like you would herpes.
It is basically an orphan and not wanted by anyone.
That does mean you can buy the pistols dirt cheap but the ammo is expensive.
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I once saw fired GAP and ACP cases on the ground at a crime scene, apparently the crook did not know that GAP and ACP were not interchangeable when he loaded them into the gun. That explained why the witness said his gun kept jamming and allowed the victim to escape unharmed.
The .45 GAP is going the way of the .45 Super, .32 H&R Mag, and .41 Mag. Good idea, just not enough sales to keep ammo in constant, easy-to-locate (and afford) production.
(For what it's worth; I guess with moon clips it would shoot in a .45 ACP revolver...)0 -
You can shoot a 45 gap in a S&W 625. 0 -
If you're lucky, you MIGHT be able to get a loaded 45 GAP round to actually go off in a 45 ACP gun (though probably not).
If you're smart, you won't try this.
The .45GAP is loaded to higher pressures than the .45ACP, and that's never good, safety-wise.
My $0.02 is that the GAP is an "answer" to a non-existent problem. There are supposedly two reasons for the existence of this round:
a. The shorter overall length of the round means the grip of a gun that carries it can be a little smaller. That MIGHT mean a more comfortable grip for those with smaller sized hands who "must" have a .45.
Is it so much of an improvement that its worth its own cartridge for this purpose? I don't think so. Most shooters seem to do just fine with ordinary 1911s, and its more the width of the grip (rather than the front-back length) that causes problems with double-stack .45s.
I think most people with tiny hands would be served BETTER with a .40SW, and if there are any shooters who have tiny hands but out of pure stubbornness MUST have a 45, then can probably just learn to get along with an ordinary .45ACP.
b. The shorter overall length of the round means that the round MAY be more reliable in smaller guns. But more reliable than .40SW, 357 SIG or 9mm luger? I doubt it. More reliable than a well-designed and properly tuned small .45ACP? Maybe. . .maybe not.
In sum, I see ZERO reason for anyone to be shooting this round out of a full sized gun.
There *might* be a reason to shoot one out of a reduced profile gun, but probably not for most shooters.0 -
Big difference in demensions.
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quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
a. The shorter overall length of the round means the grip of a gun that carries it can be a little smaller. That MIGHT mean a more comfortable grip for those with smaller sized hands who "must" have a .45.
Is it so much of an improvement that its worth its own cartridge for this purpose? I don't think so. Most shooters seem to do just fine with ordinary 1911s, and its more the width of the grip (rather than the front-back length) that causes problems with double-stack .45s.
UNLESS ofcourse the shorter (front - back length ) is designed to make the pistol shorter for a more concealable IE "compact or Sub Compact made for conceal carry0 -
Riomouse911, the 41mag aint going
anywhere!!!!![;)]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Riomouse911
I once saw fired GAP and ACP cases on the ground at a crime scene, apparently the crook did not know that GAP and ACP were not interchangeable when he loaded them into the gun. That explained why the witness said his gun kept jamming and allowed the victim to escape unharmed.
The .45 GAP is going the way of the .45 Super, .32 H&R Mag, and .41 Mag. Good idea, just not enough sales to keep ammo in constant, easy-to-locate (and afford) production.
(For what it's worth; I guess with moon clips it would shoot in a .45 ACP revolver...)
I would say that the 45 GAP is heading for a quick death, but both the 32 H&R Magnum, and 41 Magnum live on. Yes they are followed by a small loyal group, but they have been here for well over 20 years, and keep coming back and getting publicity.
The 45 GAP was an attempt at 45 ACP power in a 9mm sized gun, and failed. No one wants to carry a gun to protect your life with, that might infact take your life when it blows up.
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quote:Originally posted by rong
Riomouse911, the 41mag aint going
anywhere!!!!![;)]
I was debating whether to make that same post, but I suppose the OP question has been answered. The 41 Magnum was introduced in 1964 and has been "dieing" since 1964. It will probably continue to die for the next 40 years or so, I have 4 41s and like them all. I guess the 44 is a suitable replacement for the 41 if one needs power to take the place of accuracy, right? [;)]
But regarding the GAP, I wouldn't mind buying one as mentioned for a good price, no one seems to want the thing. Reloading for it should be about the same as ACP. Would be kind of interesting if Springfield made their smaller framed 1911 style EMP for the GAP.0
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