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h&r top break 38 cal

rbyerly
the only markings on the pistol are
cylinder has 616 stamped on it
top of barrel has harrington & richardson arms company
Pat. may 14 & aug. 6 /89 april 2/ 95 april 7/96
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  • rbyerly
    would like to know what size round it takes possibly 38 s&w or 38 colt possibly
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  • 5mmgunguy
    No serial number? No 38 S&W stamped on the barrel?
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  • pip5255
    if your looking for ID on it you'll need pictures or you'll have to get a guide with pictures to compare it to.
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  • b.goforth
    these four patent date were used on the third model auto ejector 1th variation. should have both the caliber and the model name on the left side of the barrel. serial number is in two locations on the left side of the grips frame under the grip panel and on the bottom of the top strap (above the cylinder)

    AUTOMATIC EJECTING THIRD MODEL (SMOKELESS POWDER)
    1905-1940
    Auto-ejecting mechanism, Calibers 32 S&W Long, 6 shot cylinder capacity, 38 S&W caliber 5 shot cylinder capacity, hard rubber grip panels with Target Logo, nickel finish (blue optional), barrel lengths of 2? (rare), 3? (standard), 4, 5 & 6 inches available, top of barrel markings include company name and address and early production has patent dates, the one recognizable difference in the Second and Third Models is the caliber is marked on the left side of the barrel on the Third Model
    "IF IT HAS A CALIBER MARKED ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE BARREL THEN IT WAS MANUFACTURED FOR SMOKELESS POWDER"
    First Variation 4 patent dates (5-14 & 8-6-89, 4-2-95, 4-7-97) model name and caliber on left side of barrel
    1905-1908
    Second Variation 2 patent dates (8-6-89 and 10-8-95) model name and caliber on left side of barrel
    1909-1912
    Third Variation no patent dates the name of the state is marked as MASS
    1913-1915
    Fourth Variation no patent dates the state name of Massachusetts is spelled
    1916-1924
    Fifth Variation new grip frame, it is now the same size as the rest of the frame with no step down for the grip panel-1925-1941
    After 1931 listed in Catalogs as: AUTOMATIC EJECTING No. 10 .32 S&W LONG CALIBER 6 shots and AUTOMATIC EJECTING No. 25 .38 S&W CALIBER 5 shots
    After 1932 listed in Catalogs as: AUTOMATIC EJECTING No. 20..38 S&W CALIBER 5 shots
    VALUE: 100%=$235 60%=$85 For all Auto-Ejecting 3rd Models; add 75% premium for 2?" barrel; add 25% for 4", 5" & 6" barrels; add 15% for blue finish;

    bill
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  • rbyerly
    h&r topbreak 38 cal
    i looked where you said for the serial # its 5616 underneath the top strap above the cylinder also under the left grip the cylinder is also stamped but only with 616
    as far as the markings go i will print them exactly as they are on the pistl
    harrington & richardson arms company worcester mass usa
    pat. may 14 & aug 6 89 april 2 95 april7 96
    thats all the markings no caliber marking anywhere i'm assuming this is a 38 cal i dropped a 38 special in the cylinder and it stuck out at least 3/8 to a 1/2 inch sorry i can't send pictures i don't know how i hope this goes to the right spot new at this
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  • rbyerly
    quote:Originally posted by rbyerly
    the only markings on the pistol are
    cylinder has 616 stamped on it
    top of barrel has harrington & richardson arms company
    Pat. may 14 & aug. 6 /89 april 2/ 95 april 7/96



    i forgot the cylinder is chambered for 5 rounds
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  • b.goforth
    without the caliber markings this is a black powder revolver manufactured early in the year 1905 and the four digit serial number would seem to confirm this. do not fire modern ammo in this revolver.

    value would be the same a quoted above. a large fraame chambered for 5 rounds would be 38 S&W.
    bill
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  • rbyerly
    bill you said not to fire modern ammo in this pistol do you mean the 38 s/w ammo that is out there now ? if so what kind of ammo do i need to look for ?
    rege
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