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neisman
I have a 1911 pistol #3753 and would like to find information about the authenticity of every part, marking and screw in the gun.
I would appreciate any leads on a good website or book where I can gather that information.
I am not looking for value, only hard information.
The serial number indicates that it was in the first group of 300 pistols issued to the US Marines in 1912, but I want much deeper info than that.
I am surpised to see no proof marks on a military weapon.

Regards to all, Karl
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  • perry shooter
    Hello two books that IMHO are the best for information you seek are. The Model 1911 and Model 1911A1 Military and Commercial Pistols by Joe Poyer ISBN978-188239146-2 This is a fairly good book and also Fairly cheap less then $50.00 The other book Colt.45 Service Pistols By Charles Clawson is the gold standard and IMHO BEST book on research of the 1911 pistols the Catalog # ISBN 0-9633971-0-9 However you will need deep pockets to buy one and most likely will find one or at most a very few for sale even at largest online book sellers.

    EDIT the little book has a little information the Large book has a large amount of information . sort of like comparing a Ford Ranger to a F350. . If the little book was that good the big book would not sell for 10 times the price of the little book . IMHO the book by Poyer and even the one by William Goddard ISBN0-917218-24-8 is better then the Clawson little book. To each his own. "PRAISE THE HARD-BALL GUN"
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  • nmyers
    You can still get the Clawson "small book" for $40 from:

    http://www.coolgunsite.com/

    That might be your best bet.

    Neal
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  • neisman
    What is the difference between the "Small Book" and the "Large Book"?
    Is the content the same? I care nothing for collector value of the book, only for information.
    I am looking for something on the order of Scott Duffs book on Garands.
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  • cwo4comm
    if you are only looking for info, may I suggest that you go to your local library, if they don't have the book, ask them to borrow thru the system from a library that has one. Will save you money for a very little time.
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  • neisman
    You may suggest indeed. In this day of internet information, I forgot about the library.

    Thanks, Karl

    quote:Originally posted by cwo4comm
    <SNIP>may I suggest that you go to your local library, if they don't have the book, ask them to borrow thru the system from a library that has one.<SNIP>
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  • nmyers
    And, of course, you can always post photos of your gun on the Gunbroker Ask the Experts forum. Perry Shooter just might be able to tell you everything you need to know, if he can see close-up pics.

    Neal
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  • givette
    quote:Originally posted by neisman
    What is the difference between the "Small Book" and the "Large Book"?
    Is the content the same? I care nothing for collector value of the book, only for information.
    I am looking for something on the order of Scott Duffs book on Garands.


    Small book: XYZ gizmo screw for the M1911 3/16X.030

    Big book: XYZ gizmo screw for the M1911 3/16X.030. Steel made of the hi carbon formula (formula included). Screws mostly made at Hartford, but the subcontractors used until 1910 were__________. After 19XX the formula changed to (formula included) to allow for gall prevention until 19XX. After 1923 screw thread depth changed to_________. Pictures of the screws listed in appendix 'B'. Note: all screws prior to 19XX were fire blued, except contract No. 123456 ______industries, which used the salt-blue method.

    M1911's within the SerNo range of ___________and_________ used the original formula up until 19XX


    .....and so on. Sorry, but you caught me in a really good mood, and decided to type the example between the small book and the big book in a whimsical fashion.

    Whimsical? Yes. But it really gets to what the difference is between the two. Good luck in your search! Best, Joe
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