.270 S&H
I have listed for sale on Gunbroker a Remington Model 30 Express .270 S&H w/scope it is from my fathers estate and I have no information on the rifle. I am trying to find out what a 270 S&H is. People keep asking me what a 270 S&H is but I have no info on it. The Standard 270 does not fit in the chamber, the casing is about 1/8 too long. The bolt wont close. Dad acquired it before 1974. I know S&H stood for Sharpe and Hart but I can not see that they ever produced a 270. Furthermore Remington never chambered the model 30 express in 270 S&H. So it has to be a custom or wildcat round? Right? Any info would be appreciated
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The standard practice for rifles chambered for unknown cartridges. Is to have what is known as a chamber cast done with a bismuth alloy. Most knowledgeable gunsmiths can do this. After the chamber cast has been made, the dimensions are checked with a caliper and compared to reference texts such as Cartridges of the World, to try and determine what cartridge it's chambered for. Unfortunately it's not always possible to discern the correct cartridge. 0 -
Thanks for the fast responce... I am aware of that S.O.P. but it would in theory only confirm that the rifle is in fact a .270 S&H.. I am looking for info on the .270 S&H round. As a side note the barrel is obviously a .270 and the chamber and bolt fit the standard 270 casing so it would be a minimal cost to have a gunsmith bore out the end of the barel to fit the 1/8 longer standard .270 round and make it a .270... I was just courious and wanted to pass on any info I learn about the .270 S&H if anyone has any info it would be appreciated 0 -
THIS 'SOUNDS LIKE' A .270/.308, YOU MIGHT START THERE 0 -
Well, to help you out somewhat, S&H stands for Sharpe and Hart. IIRC that would be Phil Sharpe (author, guncrank and wildcatter) and the paterich of the benchrest shooting/barrel making Hart family.
The Rem Mod 30 is the civilian adaptation of the P-14 and M-1917 rifles that Remington made.
I'm away from my references, but you might find mention of the cartridge in either "Complete Guide to Handloading" by Philip B. Sharpe or in "Handbook for Shooters & Reloaders" volume 1 or 2 by Parker O. Ackley
Mike W
Wouldn't a 6.8x57 (270 Mauser) be closer to 1/8" shorter than a 270Win (6.8x64) than a 6.8x51 (270-08) would?0 -
quote:Originally posted by MIKE WISKEY
THIS 'SOUNDS LIKE' A .270/.308, YOU MIGHT START THERE
"Mike W
Wouldn't a 6.8x57 (270 Mauser) be closer to 1/8" shorter than a 270Win (6.8x64) than a 6.8x51 (270-08) would?".........yes but.......when talking "about 1/8"" in cartriges it could be almost anything[;)]0 -
jmschlim,
Just to throw another curve ball here, but the Sharpe & Hart could be a belted magnum along the lines of the 7mm Rem/.264 Win that is shorter than the .270 win. Not only do you need to check the neck/shoulder/overall dimensions, but you need to make sure you're not dealing with a belted magnum round here either.
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A quick way to check that is to see what size the bolt face is. Pull it out and compare it against a spent case.0
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