glue for laminating stocks
I have some aged dry walnut that I want to laminate to make some benchrest stocks and would like some advise as to what glue to use
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Epoxy is good, as long as you avoid the quick-setting kind. I made a stock repair with that, and the glue eventually swelled in the humidity. But I have never had that kind of trouble with the 8-hour stuff. I've never made a laminate, exactly, but for gluing blocks together or repairing breaks I like it a lot.
A friend who had a cabinet shop showed me a laminating press they used that clamped the wood sheets and simultaneously heated the epoxy between the layers with microwaves to make it harden within seconds. If you could take your job to one of those machines, that would be perfect. But I have no idea how much it would cost.
For repairing a walnut bowl turned from blocks glued together, my brother-in-law, another cabinet maker, recommended either Titebond II or Titebond III. I used the III version, and it worked nicely. I have just glued a couple of blocks of walnut together to make a wider piece for carving, using Titebond II. The joint looks good, but I won't know how satisfactory it really is till I've carved it to final shape and used it for a while.
UPDATE: Titebond II did an excellent job. Where the seam meets the surface at nearly right angles, it is invisible. Even where it meets the surface at a shallow slant, it is very unobtrusive. Again, this is not a laminating job, just splicing blocks together, but for that kind of work I certainly recommend it.
I have been less satisfied with Gorilla Glue and others that foam up the same way. It is okay for some jobs, but I would not use it for laminating. Also, I used it to reattach a splinter and there it didn't work; epoxy would have.0 -
I agree with you on your assessment about gorila glue, I don't like the oozing. One of the glues I'm considering is Titebond III. I used to use Weldwood Resorcinal Resin 2 part glue when I built boats many years ago. I'm wondering if the newer urathane glues would work. 0 -
I would recommend one of the epoxy glues but not the foam poly glues like Gorilla.
Here is a link to a couple of pages of glues..http://www.woodcraft.com/Category/1002086/Glues.aspx0 -
quote:Originally posted by Dokey
I agree with you on your assessment about gorila glue, I don't like the oozing. One of the glues I'm considering is Titebond III. I used to use Weldwood Resorcinal Resin 2 part glue when I built boats many years ago. I'm wondering if the newer urathane glues would work.
I used Resorcinal once for a stock project. It's no good for filling bedding areas and such because it shrinks as it cures and gets cracks in it. But that shrinkage might be just the ticket for laminating. Resorcinal does bond tightly to wood; but you know that already.0 -
Hi,I have made about 45 laminated longbows & recurve bows.I used an epoxy called Smooth-on---$17.50 per pint--from- Binghamprojects.com-If it will stand up to bow limbs it will work for genstocks,But it may be A bit invalved for you.It takes about 6hr.at 160 deg.to harden.I made an oven using light bulbs,Binghams also has inst. 0 -
The urethane glues (gorilla ,Ultimate ,Sumo) are waterproof and very stable .
But the foaming can be a problem .
Some of the manufacturers now have a "low foam " which should do very well .0 -
I would use AcraGlass. You can buy it in bulk, unflocked from Brownells. 0 -
I think most of the companies putting out laminated gunstocks use epoxy.
Its one of the strongest common adhesives, plus its highly stable to heat, cold, and moisture.
There are probably other types of adhesives that *could* work, but rather than re-invent the wheel, I'd go with what's tried and true.0 -
Accra-Glass gets my vote!!! HAWKSHAW 0 -
There's a wood products outfit not far from me that at one time (maybe still) was making the laminated blanks for half a dozen U.S. manufacturers: something like Marlin, Ruger, Winchester, Savage, etc., though I wouldn't swear to each of those since I don't recall specifically but do remember being surprised and impressed when I toured the facility that they provided wood for so many.
As I recall their laminating process involved heat and extreme pressure.
Never thought of it as something you could do successfully with common epoxies and no special equipment. Be real interested in how this project goes for you. Please let us know.0
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