95% luger????
maybe lugers are rated differently than other guns. or maybe i'm unrealistic about rating condition, but this gun is advertised at 95%+ overall finish. I expect more from a 95% gun. am i being unreasonable?
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tom
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I see what you mean. Yeah, the barrel still has some bluing on most of it, but the blue is so thin I'd rate that part at 10% finish. Problem is, we don't really have any written standards for describing "thinning blue" as a percentage.
The frame may have 90% blue, & we don't know about the other parts. But, just looking at the barrel & frame wear, I can't rate the overall finish at any higher than 85%.
I'd expect something closer to this:
You might want to check the photos & % shown for Lugers at Simpson Ltd's website, as I think their descriptions are closer to what you & I expect.
JMHO, Neal0 -
If that is a 95% gun I would hate to see what one would look like if this same seller stated 60% . I would have to see more detailed pictures but looks like no straw left on trigger etc. I would say 75% if I were selling it. Of course matching ALL SMALL parts are a must and bore better be near mint. 0 -
I agree with your assessment but I like the finish and sharp edges of the upper receiver (tuning fork), sharp edges throughout and lack of pitting, rust and external wear.
If the barrel is very good,it would be a good candidate for a first rate rust blue job, recoloring of small parts and pointing up of the checkering.
Having had my fill of 100% Lugers and worn pitted ones, I prefer 90-100% finish over "history". I believe finish wear on Lugers came from neglect after capture not during the service; the same as US military firearms in 20th century US service which I know something about.
These are my views.0 -
tplumeri....one side view does not rate a 95%+. But from what I see, including frame rash from holster wear I imagine, I'm with Neal that it certainly is not 95%. More photos would help. I would not, however, reblue it and kill any collector value for as it sits it is a valuable pistol and if that holster beside it is the real deal, even more so. Hope this helps. 0 -
yeah, this percentage thing is highly subjective it seems. I've bought guns advertised as "80-90% and thought they were more like 95%. fortunately, i havent bought any "95%" guns that turned out to be 80%![:)]
I wonder if the nra ratings aren't better for the casual collector, like me.?0 -
Percentage of finish seems to mean different things to different people. With todays digital cameras, I find it best to get as many high quality digital photos of a gun that I want to buy before bidding and a 3 day inspection period. I just bought an older S&W that was advertized as 95%; it's new in the box. A 1906 American Eagle Luger advertized as 90%+ condition had at least 98% original blue and straw. These 2 guns surprized me. If I was selling your luger I would say it had some original finish with honest wear and no pitting (that I can see) and tell the buyer to see the photos. If pinned down, it looks like a 60% gun to me. It's a nice luger, I would certianly like to find one like that, but if it was sold as 95% I would probably send it back. Pictures are worth a thousand words. 0 -
What is meant by "straw"... Thanks!
Tom0 -
quote:Originally posted by elkdropping
What is meant by "straw"... Thanks!
Tom
Some of the small parts on the Luger have a light, almost golden finish and collectors refer to this as "straw". Ideally a luger would be rated 100% blue and 100% straw.0 -
Straw as applied to steel coloring is a tempering color.
As steel is heated it goes through a series of colors. Straw color
appears at about 500 deg.f. It's a fragile finish that disappears with a lot of handling.
On Lugers, the trigger, safety lever, takedown lever and ejector were straw colored.
On refinished pistols these parts may be be blued.0
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