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ID of this remington UMC pump 22 PEDERSEN's PATENT

diggerdirect
Going through the guns I came across this 22 pump action gun, barrell is marked REMINGTON ARMS COMPANY ILION, NY PEDERSEN'S PATENTS JAN'Y 5 1909 OTHER PATENTS PENDING and 22 SHORT, LONG, LONG RIFLE but cannot find any model number on it, am getting to taking some pictures but thought I'd get this out there now hope to get some ID on this one.

Al Parker 'diggerdirect'
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  • diggerdirect
    here are a few pics, sorry for the quality.
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  • Spider7115
    It looks like a Model 12 I just sold:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=154869549

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  • diggerdirect
    Hi Spider, yes it does look similar to the model 12, I cant figure why no model number is on it and my research hasn't turned up a thing.
    I'm certain this one doesn't come under the antique firearms shipping clause anyhow so I'll have to ship it to an ffl holder, but kinda wanta know what to title it, lol
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  • fordsix
    length of barrel breach to muzzle??
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  • diggerdirect
    Hey again, found the info I was looking for, mostly by accident lol

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    Remington-Pedersen's Patent Model 12A Pump Action Rifle

    The Model 12 actually came in 12A, 12B, 12C models. The Model 12A had a round barrel, while B & C had octagonal barrels. The Model 12B was a short barrel rifle.
    This firearm was introduced in 1909 and the last one, a model 12C was produced in 1929.
    Actually, Remington made the Model 12 until 1936 after which it was replaced by the Model 121.
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  • Spider7115
    quote:Originally posted by diggerdirect
    Hi Spider, yes it does look similar to the model 12, I cant figure why no model number is on it and my research hasn't turned up a thing.
    I'm certain this one doesn't come under the antique firearms shipping clause anyhow so I'll have to ship it to an ffl holder, but kinda wanta know what to title it, lol


    You're right that it's not an antique but it is C&R eligible.
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  • diggerdirect
    I want to say Thanks for the continued help on this forum!

    I have several old guns that I will be listing as soon as I get everything around, info, good pics, ect., just taking longer than I thought!

    I still have four old muzzle loaders that I will photo and post,
    1851 US springfield?
    E.Whitney
    1862 US New York (looks just like the springfield)
    and one that dad always called a 'french trade musket' that he figured was converted from a flintlock somewhere along the line

    again thanks for the help
    Al Parker diggerdirect
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