Strange engraving on Ithaca Flues
Guys,
I can't find another example of this engraving. Anyone know anything about it? Is it factory? Gun is a Flues grade 1 1/2, but this is not like any other I've seen.
I can't find another example of this engraving. Anyone know anything about it? Is it factory? Gun is a Flues grade 1 1/2, but this is not like any other I've seen.
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Amateur work... not factory original. Apparently the engravers at Ithaca were not as good as those at Winchester, Colt, Marlin, etc. The inconsistencies in the border pattern look like an amateur did the work. 0 -
Factory original. Others out there. Similar style carried into the NID.
Leaf style engraving for Grade 1 1/2 Flues started in 1915.
See Snyder The Ithaca Gun Company From the Beginning 2nd ed.
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Thanks Seller. Yep, I've now found a few more examples and you are correct of course. I'm thinking about this as a project gun. Any idea what a refinished one would go for? 0 -
It looked original to me but I ask Walt Snyder to look at it. It's typical factory engraving for that model. 0 -
BERT - Come on!
This is just above a field grade gun - Ithaca's engravers I suspect were on par with their peers. This just happens to be the lowest grade gun with engraveing (Field grade guns had a stamped scene).
1915 Flues List Price
Field $30
1S 37.75
1 40
1 1/2 50
2 60
2 KRUPP 70
3 80
4 100
5 200
6 300
7 400
per Snyder
Cost to refinish?
Might not be worth doing if it is fuctional as is.
Depends on level of refinish - not all the same. Three names that come to mind here in upstste NY are Diamond Gunsmithing, Sycamore Hill Design and Turnbull. You will find them all with Google and to my knowledge each has a good reputation.
You did not mention gauge. That likely dictates value more than anything.
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Bert,
I suspect some of the inconsistency is part of the design. It reminds me of so many of the gaudy lamps, vases and jewelry that were produced at the time, and are now so coveted by collectors. Of course , this is not high end work as Seller pointed out. Still, I kinda like it.
Seller,
It's 16 gauge which is why it interests me. All the bluing is gone, case colors are mostly gone. I was thinking it may be a good project to have it restored.0 -
Whatever it is, I think it achieves what it was meant to achieve. As far as quality goes, I see two pretty substantial dog legs in the scroll and one slight one. Other than that, the lines have nice flow and the style, though not intricate, looks pretty cool actually. 0 -
Pretty good amateur though. I like the simplicity of the pattern. Don't try that at home! 0 -
if you are going to hunt with it or use it like it was intended to be used.....it is surely a great piece without a price tag. my guns are all used and will always stay that way. as a collectors piece.....nice gun. hard to put a price on anything these days. value is truly all about what someone will pay. i too am working on an old ithaca.....1908 like yours. i am doing custom work to it but mainly to please me.....not a gun i will sell for any money. enjoy a piece of workmanship with yours. very nice piece in my eyes. if you are happy with it and it works for you.....then you got the mother load with it.
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I think the engraving on the Ithaca looks very nice.
Trapdoor Springfield Officer's Models, made in very
limited numbers for officers and high ranking civilians
had simple, crude, but I believe attractive engraving.
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