m1 garand info/value
Hi, I'm looking at an M1 garand SA #59671xx receiver, barrel SA 653500 1 65 Y 69 p-m. Rifle has a nice walnut stock. no cartouches that I can see . Parkerization is excellent, no rust, no pitting, looks practically new in every way. Just wondering if anyone can tell me what the barrel numbers mean? How much should a guy be paying for this rifle? Thanks.
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The only real number that matters on the barrel is the 1-65, which is the barrel date of January, 1965. The rifle is a post war in the 5.9 million range which means it is near the end of M1 service rifle production in 1955 (please, there is no need to tell me that they kept making M1s beyond 1955, we are talking series production here and not National Match or parts clean up). Without being able to gauge the barrel it is impossible to know it's condition, but most of these replacement barrels from the 1960s were installed on rifles during overhaul and never fired much again. The Civilian Marksmanship Program sells rifles like yours for around $600 so I'd be thinking right around that amount. 0 -
The serial number makes it a late Korean War rifle. The first number on the barrel is the drawing number, the 1 65 indicates it was made in January, 1965. So, we can be sure the barrel is not original.
The correct cartouche would be a small eagle/stars on the left side. If it's a USGI arsenal installed stock, it should at least have a proof P on the pistol grip, & likely an arsenal rebuild stamp.
There should be some markings, unless it is a commercial stock, or has been sanded.
We also need to know the condition of the bore, & the Muzzle Wear measurement. If no gauge, stick a single round of USGI .30-06 M2 ball point first in the muzzle, & measure how much copper jacket shows.
Also, check to see if there is an import marking.
Neal0 -
I have read the these late 60s barrels are the best shooting. Also read the later 40s post war barrel are good shooters. Mith or reality the forty three garand I have with a 47 barrel is a great shooter.
Emmett0 -
Hi, Neal. Not trying to be a smart ass, but check your end date for the Korean War. It ain't ended yet although a cease fire was initiated in 1955.
Cheers,
OleDuk[:)][:)]
Edit: you're right fitz, 27 July '530 -
I believe Cease Fire was 1953 (I think Sept). 0 -
We are here to discuss the rifle and not the Korean War. Get back on topic. 0 -
I've got another question. I saw a listing for a garand that had the name "marinda" carved on the bottom of the stock. Coincidently I came across a story on the internet about an m1 garand that a soldier had during ww2 that has all kinds of carving on it, including the name "marinda". Was marinda a stock manufacturer? an army depot? A town? Anybody know? 0 -
Private First Class J.J. Miranda? It could mean absolutely anything, but Miranda was not a manufacturer, depot or arsenal. 0 -
00806600......to answer your question about value, in my area of the world (east coast) the values of Garands and Carbines has really risen in the last couple of years. Mark has given you a good ballpark figure for standard value, and without photos it is hard to tell you what you have, but I can tell you that in our gunshops around here good Garands are worth their weight in gold! $600 is about the starting figure for run of the mill, rather beat up Garands, and they take off from there. Your rifle has no collector value as you know, but if it is what you say it is, I think it would be on the rack around here for $800+. Again, photos would really help. 0 -
http://www.thecmp.org/m1garand.htm
This link will give lots of info from the source.0
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