Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers
Updated as of 18 March 2010. An 1860 has popped up on Gunbroker.
I am seeking information on a line of stainless steel cab & ball revolvers made by Uberti and imported by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM in the early to mid '80s. Phil Spangenberger did an article about these stainless revolvers in the October 1983 issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. According to the article, the models that were being imported were the 1851 Navy, 186o Army, 1861 Navy, 1862 Pocket Navy, and 1862 Pocket police.
So far, I have two of these revolvers and know of six others in hands of other collectors. The revolvers known to me are:
1. Uberti / Allen 1860 Army four screw model - serial number 117XXX - AL (1983) date code.
2. Uberti 1861 Navy four screw model - serial number 118XXX - AM (1984) date code. This one has the A.UBERTI&C. / ITALY frame stamp, but does not have the Allen barrel address. Additionally, although it has four frame screws and the recoil shield is cut for a detachable shoulder stock, there is no notch in the butt.
3. Uberti / Allen 1862 Pocket Navy - serial number 119XXX - AM (1984) date code.
4. Uberti / Allen 1861 Navy four screw model cut for shoulder stock but no notch in backstrap.
5. Uberti / Allen 1851 Navy in a Sheriff Model configuration (5 inch barrel).
6. Uberti / Allen 1860 Army four screw model - serial number 121XXX - AN (1985) date code.
7. Uberti / Allen 1851 Navy with standard barrel length - serial number 117XXX - AL (1983) date code.
18 Mar from GB. Added 8. Uberti/Allen 1860 Army four screw model - Serial number 116XXX - AL (1983) date code.
From the serial number range of examples identified so far, it would appear that somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,000 of these revolvers could have been produced.
Anyone with information concerning Allen Firearms/Uberti Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers is requested to contact fingersmcgee@embarqmail.com. I am seeking information as to models, manufacture dates, and serial numbers, as well as original packaging.
Of course, if anyone has any for sale, I would be interested in that also.
I am seeking information on a line of stainless steel cab & ball revolvers made by Uberti and imported by Allen Firearms, Santa Fe, NM in the early to mid '80s. Phil Spangenberger did an article about these stainless revolvers in the October 1983 issue of Guns and Ammo Magazine. According to the article, the models that were being imported were the 1851 Navy, 186o Army, 1861 Navy, 1862 Pocket Navy, and 1862 Pocket police.
So far, I have two of these revolvers and know of six others in hands of other collectors. The revolvers known to me are:
1. Uberti / Allen 1860 Army four screw model - serial number 117XXX - AL (1983) date code.
2. Uberti 1861 Navy four screw model - serial number 118XXX - AM (1984) date code. This one has the A.UBERTI&C. / ITALY frame stamp, but does not have the Allen barrel address. Additionally, although it has four frame screws and the recoil shield is cut for a detachable shoulder stock, there is no notch in the butt.
3. Uberti / Allen 1862 Pocket Navy - serial number 119XXX - AM (1984) date code.
4. Uberti / Allen 1861 Navy four screw model cut for shoulder stock but no notch in backstrap.
5. Uberti / Allen 1851 Navy in a Sheriff Model configuration (5 inch barrel).
6. Uberti / Allen 1860 Army four screw model - serial number 121XXX - AN (1985) date code.
7. Uberti / Allen 1851 Navy with standard barrel length - serial number 117XXX - AL (1983) date code.
18 Mar from GB. Added 8. Uberti/Allen 1860 Army four screw model - Serial number 116XXX - AL (1983) date code.
From the serial number range of examples identified so far, it would appear that somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,000 of these revolvers could have been produced.
Anyone with information concerning Allen Firearms/Uberti Stainless Steel Colt style revolvers is requested to contact fingersmcgee@embarqmail.com. I am seeking information as to models, manufacture dates, and serial numbers, as well as original packaging.
Of course, if anyone has any for sale, I would be interested in that also.
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I assume you've talked to Jim Davis? 0 -
We've traded email & forum posts on this subject in the past. I'm trying to expand the data base on this particular variation of C&B revolver. And will be forwarding this info to him as well. 0 -
I have 1985 price sheets from Tony Gajewsky's company, Southwest Muzzle Loaders Supply, that list fourteen (14) Uberti stainless steel Colt Models that were manufactured. Manufacturers that produced stainless steel models of both Colt and Remington revolvers are Uberti, Armi San Marco, Armi San Paolo/Euroarms, Pietta, and Colt.
I talked with him today and he assured me that all models listed in the price sheet were available and sold.
I am enclosing a copy of the RPRCA Collector's Guide table of contents listing the various Stainless Steel models that have been uncovered. If you have seen others that are not listed I would appreciate knowing about them.
Colt Models in Stainless Steel
1. 1851 Navy
1) 1851 Navy - Colt 2nd Generation
2) 1851 Navy Oval TG
3) 1851 Navy SqBk TG
4) 1851 Navy Sheriff Model Oval TG
5) 1851 Navy Sheriff Model SqBk TG
2. 1860 Army
1) 1860 Army CSS
2) 1860 Army Polished Stainless CSS
3) 1860 Army Full Fluted Cylinder
3. 1861 Navy
1) 1861 Navy CSS
2) 1861 Navy Civilian NCSS
3) 1861 Navy Half Fluted Cylinder CSS
4) 1861 Navy Half Fluted Cylinder NCSS
5) 1861 Navy Sheriff Half Fluted Cylinder
6) 1861 Navy Sheriff CSS Half Fluted Cylinder
4. 1862 Models
1) 1862 Police Half Fluted - 5 ?" Barrel
2) 1862 Police Half Fluted - 6 ?" Barrel
3) 1862 Pocket Navy - 5 ?" Barrel
4) 1862 Pocket Navy - 6 ?" Barrel
Remington Models in Stainless Steel
1. Remington Beals Army Model - Stainless - 8" Barrel
2. Remington Beals Army Model - Stainless - Target Sights -
8" Barrel
3. Remington New Model Army - Stainless - 8" Barrel
4. Remington New Model Army - Stainless - Target Sights -
8" Barrel
5. Remington New Model Army - Stainless - Buffalo - 12" Barrel
6. Remington New Model Army - Stainless - 5 ?" Barrel0 -
Jim,
Thanks for the info. Do you have any of the Allen FA models, and if so, what serial numbers and mfg dates?
There are also the
1860 Army - Colt 2nd Generation and
1861 Navy - Colt 2nd Generation.
What do the CSS and NCSS stand for?
When can we expect to see the book?
Ken0 -
Still looking for other folks with Allen Firearms SS Colts. Anyone out there?????? 0 -
Anyone???? 0 -
Still looking 0 -
Lets bump this topic back to the top. I'm still looking for info and pistols
Ken44-400
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