OLD WINCHESTER HAND GUN
Hello, new user here. I have a question for someone familiar with winchester.My friend has a very old six shot handgun in bad shape,but would like it fixed. he sent it to a sporting goods store, they inturn sent it presumably to the factory.He was then told the gun had three (3) good parts and it would cost 150.00 to fix. But, made him an offer of a new replica of the same gun, if they could keep to use as a museum piece. This sounds strange to me but if it is true, would it be a good deal for my friend? The "factory" said it was a Denver Winchester 6 shot .22 made in 1859 or 1862. They offered a 1862 replica. The gun says Denver (?) Winchester Repeating Arms on it. I have found nothing on the internet about a revolver that old from Winchester. Any and all info would be greatly appreciated. hELLUVA WINTER WE'RE HAVING EH?
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guess who is getting screwed[^] 0 -
Need quality photos to help you identify and value the old revolver. Here are instructions for posting photos in the forum.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2592940 -
Not me, I'm a bystander.BUT the identification is accurate? 0 -
Can't take pics "factory" has possession. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by shawn 93
Can't take pics "factory" has possession.
Is there any chance that you have confused the name, i.e. Colt instead of Winchester? Winchester wasn't manufacturing revolvers during the late 1850's, early 1860's time frame, Colt was.0 -
quote:Originally posted by rufe-snow
quote:Originally posted by shawn 93
Can't take pics "factory" has possession.
Is there any chance that you have confused the name, i.e. Colt instead of Winchester? Winchester wasn't manufacturing revolvers during the late 1850's, early 1860's time frame, Colt was.
Maybe they mean Oliver Winchester instead of Denver Winchester? However, a .22 made in the 1850's should be a Smith & Wesson.
I think your friend should get his gun back and figure out what he has.0 -
Just got off the phone with my friend.An E-mail states that the gun was made by J.D. winchester, who was a relative of the founding winchesters but was made in their factory.only 1000 were produced and investment was cutoff due to exploding cartridges.(correction) D.W. Repeating arms on the gun.Had brass trigger, hammer and extractor button (these were the only salvagable parts).J.D. is for john david.Offer is a replica 1862 made to my friends liking 4 6 or 8 inch barrel,22 standard or mag, and he'll get royalties from museum as exhibits are pay exhibits (?). 0 -
The E-mail also states that it was made in 1856and this J.D.Winchester fellow also tried to make other guns as well.The hammer had a rounded "nipple",instead of a point on it.This gun apparently was made for the confederates.It was picked up in the early 1900s by my friends grandfather,in Kentucky. 0 -
This is making no sense at all. JD Winchester made 1,000 handguns at the Winchester factory under the name of DW Arms? And, someone at some museum has this unknown gun sent my some gunsmith to an unknown factory who is going to make an 1862 replica of what? And pay royalties to boot?
I'm getting dizzy... [xx(]0 -
quote:Originally posted by Spider7115
This is making no sense at all. JD Winchester made 1,000 handguns at the Winchester factory under the name of DW Arms? And, someone at some museum has this unknown gun sent my some gunsmith to an unknown factory who is going to make an 1862 replica of what? And pay royalties to boot?
I'm getting dizzy... [xx(]
My thoughts EXACTLY![|)]0 -
OK, so now this .22 caliber revolver was made in 1856, a year before the first .22 revolver was made by Smith & Wesson. It failed because of exploding cartridges yet it has round nipples instead of "pointy" ones.
Uh-Huh. Yeah. Right. [:(!]0 -
Being somewhat of a Winchester history buff, I can tell you this with 100% assurity... Winchester never commercially manufactured handguns. The original Winchester company (the Winchester Repeating Arms Co.) was not founded until the year 1866, and Oliver Winchester did not have any "relatives" who manufactured firearms before he did.
Personally, I think your friend is telling you a very tall tale concerning sending that gun being sent back to "the factory". There are absolutely no current day firearms manufacturers that would ever agree to work on, repair, or restore any handgun that was made in the 1850s (or any time in the 1800s for that matter. Based on the time frame you gave for its manufacture date, there were only two major firearms manufacturers that were making handguns... Colt and Smith & Wesson, and Colt was not making .22 caliber handguns. There were a few small "cottage" firearms manufacturers, back in those days, but they have been extinct for 120+ years.
As has been mentioned, pictures of the gun will tell us what we need to know to ID it. Without them, what your friend has is nearly worthless.0
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