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How did 30-30 get its name?

Michibay
I know the older Winchesters were 30 WCF. I have a savage made in 1900 that says 30-30. I have HEARD that Marlin was the first to call this cartridge a 30-30. Is this true?
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  • 1KYDSTR
    There was just an article in the Nat Rifleman that answered that question pretty succinctly. Indeed Marlin was the first to use the 30-30 nomenclature. It seems that the 30-30 vs 30WCF is something of a modern application and had no real basis in the traditional measurments (i.e. 45-70 being 45 cal and 70 grains of black powder etc...) first used by Winchester.
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  • Sig220_Ruger77
    30 caliber with an original standard load of 30 grains of powder was the reason that Marlin chose .30-30 over other options.

    Jon
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  • quickmajik
    Thats usually what it means.. same with old old black powder rounds. 45-70, 50-100, 38-40, ect ect.
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  • 1KYDSTR
    I should add that the marketing guys at Marlin were none too slow and decided that marking THIER lever action with Winchesters cartridge designation was not perhaps the best move. The cartridge is, I believe 30 cal and 30 grains of smokeless so at least the moniker made sense. The 30-30 was one of the first smokeless 30 caliber rounds and was quite the gee-whizz development in its' day.
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  • Tailgunner1954
    You do know that there is a black powder 30-30, the 30-30 Wesson, a straight wall cartridge?
    You do know that Remington used the moniker 30-30 REM on their rimless cartridge (for the Mod 8?) at the same time as Win was using the name 30WCF? Today this cartridge is known as the 30 REM.
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  • Michibay
    Thanks everyone...GOOD STUFF!
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