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shootuadeal
i agreed to send 2 antique firearms to the netherlands, the person there that bought them assures me that there are no licenses needed. i talked to my local ATF inspector and he told me to call the U.S. department of State. so after speaking with the gentleman there he tells me that anything before 1945 is ok.

in doing my own research it is ACTUALLY anything before 1945 that is proofed for blackpowder cartridges. well, the two firearms i am send are 1871-1888 dutch vitali beaumonts, one made in 1875 the other made in 1877. no problem right?

well my local postman is making me nervous and just told us that HIS higher ups stated to him that "no firearms at all to the netherlands". im beginning to wish i never agreed to send them there, all i actually need is an export declaration from what i was told by the buyer and the employee at the dept of state, but now im getting nervous. any help from you guys?

make me feel better at least[:)]
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  • Spider7115
    Since they're pre-1898, you do not need to tell your post office anything about the contents. Under Federal Law, they aren't firearms; they're simply antiques.
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  • ikeda
    Find an exporter. Let him worry about the details. Tell the buyer he must pay the export costs. No matter what you sold them for it isn't worth it to get crosswise with either govt.
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  • Tailgunner1954
    Have the buyer obtain a official letter, from HIS goverment, stating that he is allowed to import those specific firearms.
    BTW, it wouldn't hurt to include a copy in the customs paperwork.
    I had to go through a similar thing before I could mail a bow to a buddy in NZ, the PO balked (because they weren't sure it was OK) until I provided them with a (e-mailed) note from a NZ official that stated there were no restrictions on archery equipment.
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  • nmyers
    I'm with Ikeda; just too many things that could go wrong.

    I'd refer him to: http://etssincusa.com/

    They specialize in shipping firearms to Europe. If he balks at paying an expert to be sure that his purchase gets to him safely, I'd back out of the deal.

    Neal
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  • fordsix
    go to the postal web site and look up netherlands for shipping they will tell you what is restricted for shipping
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  • MBK
    Don't screw around....too easy to lose the gun. I see Mike at ETSS every week, and I know he will help you.
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  • john w
    If you can take the stocks off and pad them separate that way the boxes are shorter and breakage is minimised. Do your paperwork and also put a discription as to the dates etc in case the open the boxes it will answer there questions. You can also list them a parts and pieces and with the stocks off it is more believeable not that there is anything wrong with sending them whole.
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