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DIHTex
I have a pre-64 Win. Model 92 25-20. Recently in a trade I picked up a batch of ammo in a trade, some factory and some that are custom reloads. Some of the reloads are obviously meant for a bolt action (pointed) and are labeld as heavier bullets than the factory ammo produced for this gun.

Is there any danger in firing this unknown ammo single shot?

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  • Old-Colts
    Personally, I would not use any non-factory loaded ammunition without knowing how it was loaded (bullet weight, powder type, and powder charge).
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  • BHAVIN
    Shooting someone elses reloads is asking fro trouble. Even if they have the loads listed on the ammunition you have no idea of the quality. You have a great old shooter no sense in taking the chance of damage to it or you.
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  • ruger41
    NEVER shoot someone elses unknown reloads. You have no way of knowing if that person knew what they were doing. You can pull the bullets and powder, reload them yourself with the proper components for your rifle.
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  • DIHTex
    Yes, I am aware of the kneejerk reaction most folks have to shooting someone else's reloads, and it isn't something I'd even normally have reason to consider. I am well aware of the usual potential problems. Rephrasing my question, is it possible to overload this cartridge for this particular gun, or is the gun designed to take the maximum load that can be loaded in this cartridge?
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  • perry shooter
    IMHO ANY cartridge can be loaded to dangerous pressure levels. All one would have to do is use the wrong powder . If one would use the same amount of Say Bulls-Eye or 231 powder that the book called for of 2400 powder in a 25-20 say KABOOOM. I don't think it is kneejerk but only what a prudent person would do . YMMV.

    EDIT I have loaded and shot many rounds of 25-20 in Lever rifles Bolt rifles and Pump rifles it is a FUN cartridge with almost NO recoil >My suggestion either go to the WEB SITE for the maker of gunpowder brand of your choice. Or buy a reloading manual too easy to make a mistake from a load that someone posts on the internet. I dont want to sound paranoid But you can not overdo safety when it come to reloading.
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by DIHTex
    Yes, I am aware of the kneejerk reaction most folks have to shooting someone else's reloads, and it isn't something I'd even normally have reason to consider. I am well aware of the usual potential problems. Rephrasing my question, is it possible to overload this cartridge for this particular gun, or is the gun designed to take the maximum load that can be loaded in this cartridge?


    In no uncertain terms, you have been being told, NO, DON'T DO IT, and then told of related potential problems. But yes, this can be loaded to pressures that will wreck your rifle.

    Even if the bullets are pointed does not mean they were made for a bolt action. I know guys who liad 125 grain ballistic tips and use them in their 336 Marlin or 94 Winchester's for deer. They use them as two shots...one in the chamber, and one in the magazine.

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  • v35
    Original 92s have a pretty fat firing pin and the ejector supports half the cartridge case so a super hot cartridge could conceivably blow into the firing pin hole and the case base bend where ejector meets breech face.Old 92s were converted to 44Mag and 357mag without problems.
    Compared to them the 25-20 is a pipsqueek.
    However, I don't think anything you could put in the small 25-20 case will blow up that action.
    You could tie the rifle to a tire and use a lanyard and safety glasses
    to prove the combination out.
    Of course don't load more than one pointed bullet in the magazine.
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  • DIHTex
    I appreciate all the responses. I don't have much reloading knowledge and wound up with this ammo as a basic gift in an odd turn of events. I was I was stuck between two information sources on this gun. The side that says this caliber in this gun is small and the gun can support much more, which is why people bored them out and there is nothing that could be loaded into a 25-20 cartridge that would overpower the gun. The other is the side that says to never shoot unknown reloads, no matter what.

    I haven't found a community that seems to have a lot of actual knowledge about shooting what seems to be mostly a collector gun, outside of the CA folks that aren't looking for hot loads. The few that do shoot it seem to do as I do and use it as an occasional plinker with factory loads. If anyone has any suggestions of anywhere online about folks who shoot this modern day, I'd appreciate a point in the right direction.

    One last thing, I am curious about the DOM, #67074X. Thanks again for all the info,
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  • PA Shootist
    The statement that there is nothing that could be loaded into such a small cartridge that would be a dangerous overload is INCORRECT. There are many high-energy fast-burn powders and charges that could fit into this small case, or even smaller ones, that would have dangerous pressures in excess of what the cartridge case and rifle might support. If you don't know exactly what is in those handloads, you should not use them. I wouldn't myself, I'd break them down or throw them away.
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  • DIHTex
    I'm sorry, I left out the part where I am clearly convinced not to shoot them, no need to pile on. I am interested in the DOM.
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