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  • team roper ozzy
    blank gun my 2 cents
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  • rufe-snow
    "HS" in a circle is the Trade Mark of the Herbert Schmidt Co. A German manufacturer of inexpensive, mediocre quality handguns. It appears to be chambered for 4mm rimfire blanks.
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  • eebantinpa
    How interesting, thank you so much. I'm just googling Herbert Schmidt and see where someone said he made a "charming" little revolver that fired 2mm pinfire blanks. This could be it.

    Thanks again!
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  • rufe-snow
    quote:Originally posted by eebantinpa
    How interesting, thank you so much. I'm just googling Herbert Schmidt and see where someone said he made a "charming" little revolver that fired 2mm pinfire blanks. This could be it.

    Thanks again!


    The revolver is a Rimfire not a Pinfire. The cylinder and hammers differ between the two ignition systems. Also The holes in the cylinder appear to be quite a bit larger then 2mm, which is approximately .080 using the "English" dimensions used in the States.
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  • eebantinpa
    You are right. I will have to measure it correctly. Just need to find my caliper now.
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  • Tailgunner1954
    Just for a visual, the 3 short rounds on the left end of the top row are 4mm rimfires (short missing the ball, short and long), the 22's are the 2nd group of short ones (seperated by 17 cal's)
    Cartridges016.jpg

    The little thing on the left is a 2mm pinfire blank, the others are wildcats based on the 22rf case
    Misc029.jpg
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  • 11b6r
    Say, Tailgunner- about the rimfire wildcats- I ahve one round of .14 Alton Jones- what are the others you have there? Nice collection, BTW. I also have a couple of rds of 4mm ball. They look to be inside primed CF from the Xrays.
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  • USN_Airdale
    quote:Originally posted by Tailgunner1954
    Just for a visual, the 3 short rounds on the left end of the top row are 4mm rimfires (short missing the ball, short and long), the 22's are the 2nd group of short ones (seperated by 17 cal's)
    Cartridges016.jpg

    The little thing on the left is a 2mm pinfire blank, the others are wildcats based on the 22rf case
    Misc029.jpg


    very nice collection you have there, would you be interested in obtaining more ?
    i have three old cigar boxes filled with ammo i have collected since i was about 8 y.o., do you have a 6mm rimfire shot shell ? remember the "Wingo" ammo ? i have some of those also.
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  • Tailgunner1954
    11b6r
    IIRC those are 10, 12 & 14 Eichelberger LR, a 14 Alton Jones (copper case) and a 14-22 OTTR (based on a 22lr shotshell case). Ed Reynolds has them, if your looking.
    Those are rimfires, but there is also a couple of inside primed cases that looks very similar on the outside. The 4mm training round (used in 9mm Para pistols with an adaptor) is one, the primer in the plastic 8mm CF buckshot case is another, the "igniter/bang simulator" for a Swiss(?) rocket launcher is yet another. Some use the rose crimp to hold the primer in place, some use a crimp ring.
    Here's a photo of a German 22cf packet, with a IP, (not mine) that was discussed on the IAA board recently
    IMG_8678.jpg


    USN Airdale
    You got mail.
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  • ColtDoctor
    Looks very similar to a Velo Dog (antique arms made for pests) I have seen. Definitely not a toy! Nice pill collection there tailgunner!
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