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  • wpage
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.
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  • freedomfighter
    wpage Posted - 02/07/2010:
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.

    In fact I think its the last thing gov wants. If we could control ourselves, we might control it.

    What is surprising is that it seems the last thing gunowners will relate to in activism to protect 2nd amendment rights. Excepting your wise-self of course.
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  • Highball
    quote:I've developed an alternative treatment to all the nonsense that psychology attempts which basically gets directly to the unconscious mind. Once there, all that is needed is an advanced understanding of psychology and human instinct to create a script which is spoken to the individual.

    Perhaps you might explain a bit about exactly what you intend doing...once you penetrate the unconscious mind.

    'Advanced understanding' can cover LOTS of ground...depending upon who does the script.
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  • freedomfighter
    quote:I've developed an alternative treatment to all the nonsense that psychology attempts which basically gets directly to the unconscious mind. Once there, all that is needed is an advanced understanding of psychology and human instinct to create a script which is spoken to the individual.


    Highball wrote:
    Perhaps you might explain a bit about exactly what you intend doing...once you penetrate the unconscious mind.

    I understand your question well. Allow me to define parameters and relationships first.

    We are unconscious 24/7 for our entire lives. For around 1/3 of our live we are exclusively unconscious.

    We have conscious moments, or episodes of what is known as "rational thinking".


    What the unconscious mind of the subject gets bypasses the critical thinking of the subject, defective in this case, with correct thinking for their longest term biological and psychological benefit.

    Accepting that we can know that about each other is a matter of understanding the "Maslowian heirarchy" of values.

    That correct thinking, because it is "knowledge of living" (as you have processes for) in a certain way, the import of the script, goes directly to the long term memory and is limbically associated, historically correct, the person uses instincts that are positive rather than negative.

    Deep psychological abuse, creating violence problems is another issue that needs to be addressed in stages countered specifically. Such a need will be exposed during evaluation and automatically incorporated to degrees and with sequencing assuring the greatest success and complete recovery.

    Human beings really do want to live. It might be said they need to or they just don't feel right about what they are doing.

    If they don't there are reasons. Trauma and obsession with limbic response patterns are easily broken by group interactions and post hypnotic performance. Such is the type reason that rituals were invented in human society to begin with.
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  • freedomfighter
    Let me add that conditional instructions are given that connect naturally to normal, safe behaviors and functional happiness via fundamental instinct.

    They are also general, or re applied everyday from the unconscious. The instruction, upon conditions, can progress and institute major thought and life changes that are fully open to the individuals own and unique procesess of growth.
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  • Highball
    Well, freedomfighter;
    I have read that over several times and just purely decided it is out of my league.
    Thanks for posting it.
    I expect I will resist being subjected to the 'treatment'..if ever such is offered.
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  • freedomfighter
    Highball, you seem to have no need of such treatment. Many people don't. Just posting your question shows you are better than "okay", you're right on!

    My point being that you sensed and reacted to the complexities I indicate psychologically dictate behaviors between the conscious and the unconscious mind or how influence might be applied. Some seriously need it.

    There are some real wrecks walking around and the pills the psychiatrists and psychologists give them seem to actually make it worse.

    Most importantly that such a treatment be available. The County Mental Health department gave about as much a defacto approval as one might expect with someone such as myself without degrees in medicine making such a proposal with their letter to me in September of 1999.

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    Or . . . my proposal met their standards and they were willing to "carry it forward" to the statemental health department.

    In 2000 I knew that this treatment will protect all people from behaviors, their own or anothers.

    A FOIA was filed to get that "response in writing".

    They purged it from their records and federal courts secretly abrogate pro se rights in the 9th circuit.

    These folks got to be working the other side of the fence from those claiming guns need to be controlled because of extreme violence with them

    Flat out. If we show we can control ourselves, we can control them. It's the LAST thing they want.
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  • freedomfighter
    I would think that a few here resent being regulated and controlled in all the ways our errant governemnt does and see fit to take exception to the government violating laws that they have to operate under. When failing to follow those laws causes immense suffering and gets people killed, that should be enough.

    Look at all the petty ordinances you can be cited for which you must pay a fine if violated.

    Here are 2 issues and their pages or sites where government is violating laws that creates huge costs and causes a loss of life and property.

    The details on the experimental treatment that saw defacto approval by my local mental health department.

    http://algoxy.com/psych/thetreatment.html

    Here is a site that has my legal efforts to compel the municipality to follow laws and treat the public with an appropriate treatment.

    http://algoxy.com/law/

    What we find is serious trickery from the supreme court in order to avoid the issue.
    That is AFTER the 9th circuit creates local court rule designed to be abrogated with a branch holding the essence of pro se civil rights, access to courts being CUT OFF secretly in 2005!

    Yes, secretely. No note of the revision has been placed in the rules as is law. No public notice of the major change to the local rules was provided as the administrative office of the US courts requires. No public comment and review was provided as the administrave office mandates.
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  • cccooper
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.


    I agree. We are not governed by intelligent, thoughtful, or reasoning people. We are governed by namby pamby pantywaists that make decisions based on feelings and emotions. (Sometimes on Science that has not been peer reviewed or validated.)

    Doomed.[:(!]
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  • wpage
    Problem is government is run by lawyers.
    When lawyers get involved in rights. They take yours away. Lawyers understand ways to protect their own right.
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  • freedomfighter
    quote:Originally posted by cccooper
    quote:Originally posted by wpage
    That makes too much sense to have any chance of being supported by government.


    I agree. We are not governed by intelligent, thoughtful, or reasoning people. We are governed by namby pamby pantywaists that make decisions based on feelings and emotions. (Sometimes on Science that has not been peer reviewed or validated.)

    Doomed.[:(!]


    Hmmm, another behavioral problem. The treatment can at least supress their obsession with control.

    People that are not intelligent, thoughtful, or reasoning cannot hold positions of authority. All that needs to be done is a proper test for each be devised and presented with a petition and witnesses signing proof of delievery. If the test is based on a specific instance of mental performance of record that is questionable, is named in the petition, it is justified.
    A copy should be presented with witnesses signing proof of delivery to the director of the personel department.
    Announcement of the action should be made to the county board of supervisors with copies submitted to the clerk of the board.
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