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bilzden
I have a 12 guage russel arms double barrel shotgun,it says twist belgium on the barrel but thats all I can find on it. How old is it and does it have any value?thanks
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  • nononsense
    bilzden,

    "...but thats all I can find on it."

    You have to look in other places.

    Take the forearm wood off and look under that area for proof marks and maker's marks. Then open the shotgun and separate the two halves. Look at the underside of the barrels at the breech and then look at the water table for more proof marks and maker's marks.

    It would be a great help for us if you would take some sharp photographs of all the marks so we can attempt to identify and age the shotgun.

    As with all other firearms and objects of value, that value will depend upon the condition and quality of your shotgun. Without seeing good photographs we have no way of guessing.

    Best.
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  • bilzden
    i have some pics but can't figure out how to insert them on here,is there an email address i can send them to?
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  • perry shooter
    BILZDEN if you look at the top few post on this forum at topic STICKY you will see one with directions on how to post pictures . If you want to send pictures to someone just double click on that persons name and it will let you send him a EMAIL through Gunbroker .Send him your direct email address and that person can then contact you to receive pictures directly from you.
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  • Ned Fall
    I have three listings for the name RUSSELL. One and the first is just plain Russell was used by Wiebusch & Hiller Limited, a dealer located in New York City. Second is Russell Arms Co made in Belgium by Joseph Cap a maker from 1880 to 1910 and imported by H & D Folsome a large wholesaler and retailer located in New York City. The third is Russell Arms Co Fine Barrel Steel also made by Joseph Cap and imported by H & G Folsome. So your gun would have been made sometime between 1880 and 1910 more likely 1890 and 1910. Does it have value? I have a brother-in-law who is an example, a bad example. Yes the gun has value but it will depend on the condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. An example that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon migh go as high as $175 while a rusty rotten incomplete piece of junk that a salvage yard would refuse might go for $10 for parts. A word of caution here. Belgian made guns of this period were designed for tha ammunition in use at the time which was black powder loaded and have damascus barrels. They are not to be considered safe to shoot using modern high pressure smokeless powder loaded ammo and certainly not 3 inch magnum shells or steel shot. Just don't attempt to shoot the gun!
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