Robinson Arms XCR
I apologize up front if I am beating this question to death. What it represents is the decision making process, in which I want two rifles, can't afford the two, but could compromise if one can serve multiple mission profiles. I have an AR10 but would like an AR in .556. I am also intrigued by the piston driven versions. That is rifle one. As I noted, I hike a lot, as much as possible. One place in particular is at the edge of suburbia and a rural area. It is thousands of acres of thick woods, hills, and 25+ miles of mountain bike trails. It is primitive and a great challenge. Local parks are being taken over by tourists, and, when the weather is warm, all sorts of people including devo-pervos, druggies, etc... I go to the woods to get in touch with my "inner-Daniel Boone" so those parks don't work. I like winter and frequent the mountain bike place during the "worst" weather. I first began to encounter recently fired shotgun shells, rifle casings, and hunting arrows on public trails. Then I began to find deer carcasses that had been killed with arrows and sometimes firearms. I started to encounter some individuals who were clearly not hikers or bikers. When I am out there during "bad" weather, I am usually alone. The shooting on private land adjacent to the place I hike has gotten so close (some revolvers) I am sure they are on the public side. Mountain bikers have complained about encountering the poachers. I found a deer stand and climbing harness on a trail about 50 yards inside the public no hunting place. There is much more and some of it kind of strange but you get the point. I do carry when I am in the woods. The handgun is concealed. However, I got to thinking that a rifle with a folding stock slung down my back under a long waisted coat might be advisable. Ruger makes the mini-14 with an ATI stock that collapses and folds. But I also want an AR-15 maybe with a piston. That means two rifles. As I learned here, unless I want a Para Ordnance rifle, a side folder is not realistic. And then I remembered the Robinson Arms XCR. It is .556, gas piston, and a side folder. MSRP is $1500. I go through an FFL who charges me cost plus taxes. This might kill two birds with one stone. Anyone know anything about the XCR? Thanks and I believe this will do it for me on this topic. Hopefully it helps others trying to make a tough decision on where to send precious dollars.
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I don't have an opinion on the XCR, I would think it would be a fine firearm coming from Robinson. WIth that said, the new Bushmaster ACR will also have a folding stock, MSRP looks to be around 2700 though. I think you also have to give the SIG 556 a hard look.
Non of these guns are AR15's. They are semi auto's that fire 556.
Prices for the sig's are running normal, 1300-1600 depending on model.0 -
shoff14: Thanks for your post and patience. You're right. None are AR15s and that will be a compromise. I had passed on the SIG because I read about wild prices during the big gun buy. Maybe it has come down? 0 -
I've used the XCR and like it much, but it is a bit on the heavy side compared to any AR or 556. Since you mentioned Robinson I'll just mention their M96 carbine. Uses AR magazines and can be fitted with a side folder. One button changes barrels & can take you from a 20" rifle to a folder with a 16" bbl. Uses a pistion just like the FAL.
I think you can buy a Sig for about $1,300.00 or so now. I've used the side folder and the handgun and they are really fine shooters. Tough to describe the difference between the 556 and the ARs - much "snappier" feel to the recoil and GP function.0 -
Almost all of the AR mfgrs showed piston rifles and pistols at the SHOT show last week.
I am still partial to the Daewoo and the Para Ordnance.
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I don't know what type of coat you intend to wear while biking? But concealing a large, heavy, slung rifle across your back is going to be problematical and uncomfortable to my way of thinking, with any of them. In fact your going to stand out like a sore thumb, unless you wear something like a poncho. It would be best to stash it in some kind of disguised container on the bike. 0 -
A high quality soft tactical rifle case with a shoulder sling might be ideal for stowing the gun out of sight while protected from the elements. also an extra mag or 5 as well as a handgun and extra optics and batteries...
One of the rifles I'm really beginning to like is the MSAR STG-556, this rifle is about 27" overall with a carbine barrel, its very fast in the hand and can be fired one handed better then any other rifle I've ever used, I'm almost as fast & accurate with one hand as two inside 100 yards.. I can litterly switch barrels in 10 seconds. and field strip it in 30.
the rifle stays inside the frame of my torso, so its easy to manuver with, yet its always ready to fire, The cross bolt safety makes it very quick in and out of action..
The optic rail makes it easy to mount any optic quickly, the side rails work fine with a lasers, lights or IR or laser illuminators.
prone shooting and loading it is fast, reloading in general is very fast, as fast as an ak..
my rifle has fired 600-800 rounds without cleaning, no gun related malfs.. thats the most I've run through mine without cleaning, but other owners have said they've fired over a thousand with the same good functioning..
The MSAR is an excellent firearm.0
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