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Hammerless .357 Steel Frame Snub Nose Revolvers

Juggernaut
Are the only hammerless .357 steel frame 'snub nose' revolvers, the Taurus 650 blued and the Smith & Wesson 640 stainless and does the Smith & Wesson 640 also come in blued as well but retaining the steel frame?
Thank you.
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  • nmyers
    Specifications for all current S&W models can be found on the S&W website.

    Neal
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  • blackhawk45
    Ruger SP 101
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  • hdcolt51
    quote:Originally posted by blackhawk45
    Ruger SP 101


    Ruger makes a hammerless SP 101?
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by hdcolt51
    quote:Originally posted by blackhawk45
    Ruger SP 101


    Ruger makes a hammerless SP 101?


    The Ruger version is not truly hammerless, but has a factory installed flush-fit bobbed hammer. If the idea is to prevent snagging, it works as well as a hammerless gun:

    sp101dao04.jpg


    In terms of Smith, so far as I know Smith does NOT currently offer any blued steel hammerless .357 guns, and I don't think I've ever seen one.

    Personally speaking, for a functional carry gun like this, I'd prefer stainless anyway.
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  • tsr1965
    None of the versions of Taurus, Ruger or S&W are hammerless. Just some have an external hammer shroud that is an integral part of the frame. Acutally the S&W j-frame airweight 22 LR, has the same hammer as the internal one on the 640.

    I am not sure if the S&W blued version is also available in 357, or just 38 Special. This information wold be available on their website. I know they carry a Scandium framed version though...I have not only seen one but fired one. Model 340.

    As an alternative, it is just as well or better, to have a bobbed hammer version that can be fired single action. It will give you the best of both worlds, of snagless, and still being able to still fire single action if desired. Many of my customers that carry small framed revolvers, request this service.

    Best
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  • hdcolt51
    quote:Originally posted by beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by hdcolt51
    quote:Originally posted by blackhawk45
    Ruger SP 101


    Ruger makes a hammerless SP 101?


    The Ruger version is not truly hammerless, but has a factory installed flush-fit bobbed hammer. If the idea is to prevent snagging, it works as well as a hammerless gun:

    sp101dao04.jpg


    In terms of Smith, so far as I know Smith does NOT currently offer any blued steel hammerless .357 guns, and I don't think I've ever seen one.

    Personally speaking, for a functional carry gun like this, I'd prefer stainless anyway.



    Thanks for the pic shootah! Have never seen one,will be looking for one,I like my Sp101 that I have now...its lonely and needs a brother.
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  • beantownshootah
    quote:Originally posted by hdcolt51
    Thanks for the pic shootah! Have never seen one,will be looking for one,I like my Sp101 that I have now...its lonely and needs a brother.


    You're welcome.

    I always try to put pictures in my posts; since they're generally much more helpful than words and really "spice up" the threads.
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  • Juggernaut
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    None of the versions of Taurus, Ruger or S&W are hammerless. Just some have an external hammer shroud that is an integral part of the frame. Acutally the S&W j-frame airweight 22 LR, has the same hammer as the internal one on the 640.
    I am not sure if the S&W blued version is also available in 357, or just 38 Special. This information wold be available on their website. I know they carry a Scandium framed version though...I have not only seen one but fired one. Model 340.
    As an alternative, it is just as well or better, to have a bobbed hammer version that can be fired single action. It will give you the best of both worlds, of snagless, and still being able to still fire single action if desired. Many of my customers that carry small framed revolvers, request this service. Best

    Yeah technically there is actually an internal mechanism and I am aware of that, although they are simply referred to as 'hammerless' is all.
    Don't care for the 'air or light weights' and prefer blued steel, a 'bobbed' hammer might work if a 'hammerless' version wasn't available, anyway either the Taurus or the Smith would work as long as the Smith could be 'blackened'.
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  • tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by Juggernaut
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    None of the versions of Taurus, Ruger or S&W are hammerless. Just some have an external hammer shroud that is an integral part of the frame. Acutally the S&W j-frame airweight 22 LR, has the same hammer as the internal one on the 640.
    I am not sure if the S&W blued version is also available in 357, or just 38 Special. This information wold be available on their website. I know they carry a Scandium framed version though...I have not only seen one but fired one. Model 340.
    As an alternative, it is just as well or better, to have a bobbed hammer version that can be fired single action. It will give you the best of both worlds, of snagless, and still being able to still fire single action if desired. Many of my customers that carry small framed revolvers, request this service. Best

    Yeah technically there is actually an internal mechanism and I am aware of that, although they are simply referred to as 'hammerless' is all.
    Don't care for the 'air or light weights' and prefer blued steel, a 'bobbed' hammer might work if a 'hammerless' version wasn't available, anyway either the Taurus or the Smith would work as long as the Smith could be 'blackened'.


    The S&W Scandium frame was BLACK, and comes with a tritium express sight.

    Like this one:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=152702077

    Not technically...just really. Anytrhing that fires from a closed bolt is either spring loaded striker fired, or hammer to firing pin fired. Hammerless is a marketing term for snag free.

    Best
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  • Juggernaut
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    quote:Originally posted by Juggernaut
    quote:Originally posted by tsr1965
    None of the versions of Taurus, Ruger or S&W are hammerless. Just some have an external hammer shroud that is an integral part of the frame. Acutally the S&W j-frame airweight 22 LR, has the same hammer as the internal one on the 640.
    I am not sure if the S&W blued version is also available in 357, or just 38 Special. This information wold be available on their website. I know they carry a Scandium framed version though...I have not only seen one but fired one. Model 340.
    As an alternative, it is just as well or better, to have a bobbed hammer version that can be fired single action. It will give you the best of both worlds, of snagless, and still being able to still fire single action if desired. Many of my customers that carry small framed revolvers, request this service. Best
    Yeah technically there is actually an internal mechanism and I am aware of that, although they are simply referred to as 'hammerless' is all.
    Don't care for the 'air or light weights' and prefer blued steel, a 'bobbed' hammer might work if a 'hammerless' version wasn't available, anyway either the Taurus or the Smith would work as long as the Smith could be 'blackened'.

    The S&W Scandium frame was BLACK, and comes with a tritium express sight.
    Like this one:
    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=152702077
    Not technically...just really. Anytrhing that fires from a closed bolt is either spring loaded striker fired, or hammer to firing pin fired. Hammerless is a marketing term for snag free.
    Best

    Scandium is not steel and yeah technically it has an internal mechanism that operates as the hammer and since its not exposed it is referred to as 'hammerless'.
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