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AR Lower Receiver Legalities

GoldenFinger
I am wondering what kind of legal mumbo-jumbo/registration is required for me to purchase an AR15 Lower Receiver in North Carolina. I am a Utah resident living in North Carolina because I am in the military, and I realize that any paperwork I mould normally have to do is quadrupled because of these circumstances. Is anyone familiar with the process that can tell me what I need to do? Thanks
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  • Nwcid
    Step 1, Walk into NC gun store
    Step 2, Find lower you want
    Step 3, Pay
    Step 4, Fill out 4473
    Step 5, Walk out with lower and smile

    Total time less then 15 min depending on how much time you do looking at stuff.

    I am not sure what "extra" paperwork you think there is.
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  • nmyers
    Well, you will your military ID & papers showing that your duty station is in NC.

    Neal
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  • sandwarrior
    quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
    Step 1, Walk into NC gun store
    Step 2, Find lower you want
    Step 3, Pay
    Step 4, Fill out 4473
    Step 5, Walk out with lower and smile

    Total time less then 15 min depending on how much time you do looking at stuff.

    I am not sure what "extra" paperwork you think there is.




    +1 It's like in most states for military. NC is definitely military friendly when it comes to gun laws.
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  • mark christian
    As Neal pointed out, you'll need to show that your duty station is in fact in NC. Being a Utah resident and simply living in NC because you are in the military does not indicate that you are assigned to a post in NC, you could be stationed in Virgina, and that won't work for a NC firearms purchase.
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  • Nwcid
    Why not? It is legal to transfer rifles to out of state people military or not, correct?

    Is the issue that the new 4473 and lowers can only be sold as receivers so have to follow the transfer rules of pistols since it could be built as either?
    If that is the case I understand the need for proper ID.
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  • dfletcher
    Just FYI - in addition to the above info, you now need to be 21 to buy the stripped AR receiver.
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  • mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
    Why not? It is legal to transfer rifles to out of state people military or not, correct?

    Is the issue that the new 4473 and lowers can only be sold as receivers so have to follow the transfer rules of pistols since it could be built as either?
    If that is the case I understand the need for proper ID.




    You got it. If this is simply a stripped lower then as far as the BATFE is concerned it can just as easily be a handgun as a rifle and out of state purchases of pistols are not allowed. Put a butt stock on the thing and you can walk out the door with it in five minutes.
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  • nmyers
    "A
    member of the Armed Forces on active
    duty is a resident of the State in
    which his or her permanent duty station
    is located. If a member of the
    Armed Forces maintains a home in
    one State and the member's permanent
    duty station is in a nearby State
    to which he or she commutes each
    day, then the member has two States
    of residence and may purchase a
    firearm in either the State where the
    duty station is located or the State
    where the home is maintained."

    ATF P5300.4, page 179.

    Neal
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  • dfletcher
    quote:Originally posted by mark christian
    quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
    Why not? It is legal to transfer rifles to out of state people military or not, correct?

    Is the issue that the new 4473 and lowers can only be sold as receivers so have to follow the transfer rules of pistols since it could be built as either?
    If that is the case I understand the need for proper ID.




    You got it. If this is simply a stripped lower then as far as the BATFE is concerned it can just as easily be a handgun as a rifle and out of state purchases of pistols are not allowed. Put a butt stock on the thing and you can walk out the door with it in five minutes.


    With respect to putting a buttstock on the thing and and becoming a rifle (once a rifle always a rifle, correct?) what would be the chronology of that happening? Does the prospective buyer say "I'll take it" and immediately attach the stock before any paperwork is started? Does the seller attach the stock and if so is that considered manufacturing?
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  • mark christian
    The receiver already exists so you are not manufacturing anything, it already has a serial number on it and the FET has been paid by the OEM. It all comes down to what you are planning on doing with it. The problem is that unless it has a butt stock fitted to it at point of sale there is nothing that will demonstrate 100% that it won't be a pistol.
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