Coach Gun Light
Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to mount a light on a 12 gauge, SxS coach gun to be used for home defense? I'd like to use a good quality tactical light of some kind.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Thanks for any suggestions.
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You could get a neon sign that says "Shoot Me Here". Are you in the business of making 'B' movies? 0 -
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_double_defense.php
There you go.
If I saw one of these on the shelf at the gun store for $300 I would probably buy one just to have.0 -
lol now I've seen everything. What's next..rails on a Colt SAA
I've seen Clint Smith of Thunder Ranch mount a light on a double barrelled shotgun but I believe he used high strength rubber bands.0 -
quote:Originally posted by Nwcid
http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/stoeger_double_defense.php
There you go.
If I saw one of these on the shelf at the gun store for $300 I would probably buy one just to have.
Thanks for the response without the snide remarks some others feel are necessary.0 -
just all in good fun here REC-it's just that it seems every new gun out has to have some tacticool rail/laser/etc on it-heck the new 10/22 I just got has a rail--but if thats what you need and want then that's your business--but on gun broker there is a lot of good natured kidding. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by REC
Does anyone have any suggestions on the best way to mount a light on a 12 gauge, SxS coach gun to be used for home defense? I'd like to use a good quality tactical light of some kind.
Thanks for any suggestions.
Best way, see below.
Simplest way? Some duct tape. Seriously. Its cheap, and a few turns should hold pretty well.
Black duct tape would be more "tactical"; and I say this only slightly tongue in cheek.
Here is the ad with Clint Smith from Thunder Ranch:
http://www.duetsblog.com/uploads/image/Priceless Ad copy2(1).jpg
He can't really have attached the light with some thick black rubber bands, but it certainly LOOKS that way!
If you want to see something a little more durable, check out the most recent (Feb 2010) copy of "SWAT" magazine.
On page 26 there is an article by Steve Baughman on exactly this, a custom made "tactical" coach gun.
The author took a stock single-trigger Stoeger gun, added a custom made underbarrel 1913 rail to mount a Streamlight flashlight. To complete the package he had a trigger job done, and deactivated the automatic safety.
Personally, I'm a bit skeptical of the value of adding lights to guns (see my post here: http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=426894 ).
As to the "Stoeger Double Defense", ( http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firearms/images/double_defense_large_blue_12.jpg ) while I do think that a short SxS makes a great defense gun, that one is just FUGLY!
I don't like gratuitous picatinny rails either. Not only are they ugly, but they're rough like cheese graters. I can maybe see a SHORT bottom rail for a flashlight, but the top rail? IMO, its a waste.
The whole point of a SxS is that's its SIMPLE. The front bead sight is the original "dot" sight, and it works well at short ranges by simple pointing.
I can see putting an electronic dot sight on a scattergun for long range slug or turkey hunting, but on a short-range defensive gun it just seems like another thing to go wrong at the worst time.0 -
You can buy a piece of picatiny rail
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-G36-Handguard-Picatinny-Rail/dp/B002GNYCNU
and screw it on or glue it to the forearm. Then you can use all the fancy AR15 flash light mounts and tactical flash lights.
I have a Surefire G2 that I carry everywhere over here. Once I get home, for good, I will probably mount it on on my AR.0 -
Seriously... It used to be "common knowledge" back in the old days that the light gives the bad guy an aiming point he otherwise wouldn't have. We used to practice holding the light off to the side, though with a pistol in hand. Is it a bad idea mounted on the gun? Anyone have any other good ideas on this subject? 0 -
quote:Originally posted by PA Shootist
Seriously... It used to be "common knowledge" back in the old days that the light gives the bad guy an aiming point he otherwise wouldn't have. We used to practice holding the light off to the side, though with a pistol in hand. Is it a bad idea mounted on the gun? Anyone have any other good ideas on this subject?
A light like a Surefire makes identifying your target at night easy. The idea behind a light is to momentarily use it then move locations if necessary. A light like a surefire will also blind your target as well.0 -
Thanks for the suggestions. When considering the use of a two-handed weapon such as a shotgun, positive target identification MAY take precedence over exposing your position to a potential assailant. Circumstances vary, e.g. who is using the weapon, training, how confined the location, etc. etc.
Given the technology of new tactical lights, I too like the idea of temporarily blinding an intruder and having the opportunity to identify the threat before actually using deadly force.0 -
If I remember right, Clint Smith cut a piece of rubber from a old bicycle inner tube to mount the light to hib double [;)] 0 -
If you are going to go this route, consider a flashlight with a remote switch taped to the forearm; you may not want the flashlight turned on until the last possible moment.
Rather than a rail, you might consider a clamp mount on the side of 1 barrel. Brownell's has several sizes, but you will have to figure if one of them fits both the barrel & your flashlight.
Personally, I'd try the redneck univeral flashlight mount: a radiator hose clamp. Picking your Close Encounter firearm is as individual as picking your underwear; everyone has their favorite. Whatever works for you is the best choice.
Neal
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