Remington CDL: For Briguy
Briguy:
No one ever seemed to address your question on the earlier post. Everyone seemed intent on trying to solve a problem that you had not presented.
I do not have a CDL, but I do know a little bit about them. Also, I have several friends and family members with Rem 700 SPS and other models.
I have a favorable impression of the CDL. It is an an attractive rifle, with a walnut stock that appeals to me. Most standard cartridges, including the .243, have 24 inch barrels. The left-hand model is offered in .243, but not .260 or 7mm-08. I have followed pricing on these on GunBroker for quite awhile, and about the best price I have ever seen on a new one is around $699, as I recall. I believe that models made in the last several years will have the new Remington trigger, but those made more than a few years ago may not have the new trigger. I am not sure at what date the trigger was put into the newer manufactured models.
The barrels are not free-floated. They have a pressure point at the forend. My brother and a friend do not specifically have the CDL, but they have the SPS, which is the same barreled action in a synthetic stock, and both have it in .243. They reload their ammo, and have been using 58 grain Hornady V-Maxes, pushing them at around 3700 fps, but I cannot tell you what powder they are using. Of course, this is a varmint load, and accuracy is somewhat better than 1 MOA, or better than 1 inch at 100 yards, and perhaps much better.
I am not really a Remington fan, but these and a number of the other guys I know are die-hard Remington advocates. In general, if you ask them, their choices in rifles sometimes go something like this for their top five choices: 1. Remington 700; 2. Remington 700; 3. Remington 700; 4. Remington 700; 5. Remington 700 (if you get the idea). In fact, one of these guys has a .223, .22-250, .243, 30-338, 8mm Remington Magnum, and 6.5-06, all in 700s. Some of these 700s shot .25 MOA, stock, with handloads.
I hunt with a lot of guys, and the assortment of rifles includes Remingtons, Winchesters, Brownings, Coopers, Weatherbys, customs, Sakos, Tikkas, Rugers, and others. But there is not a Savage among them. The Accutrigger, although many love it, is not good in hunting situations, in my experience. Further, I have tried two Savages, and one of those had feeding problems and trigger failure problems. I no longer own a single Savage.
If the length of pull is an issue for your friend, one of the smaller rifle versions such as the Browning Micro Hunter may be something to consider.
No one ever seemed to address your question on the earlier post. Everyone seemed intent on trying to solve a problem that you had not presented.
I do not have a CDL, but I do know a little bit about them. Also, I have several friends and family members with Rem 700 SPS and other models.
I have a favorable impression of the CDL. It is an an attractive rifle, with a walnut stock that appeals to me. Most standard cartridges, including the .243, have 24 inch barrels. The left-hand model is offered in .243, but not .260 or 7mm-08. I have followed pricing on these on GunBroker for quite awhile, and about the best price I have ever seen on a new one is around $699, as I recall. I believe that models made in the last several years will have the new Remington trigger, but those made more than a few years ago may not have the new trigger. I am not sure at what date the trigger was put into the newer manufactured models.
The barrels are not free-floated. They have a pressure point at the forend. My brother and a friend do not specifically have the CDL, but they have the SPS, which is the same barreled action in a synthetic stock, and both have it in .243. They reload their ammo, and have been using 58 grain Hornady V-Maxes, pushing them at around 3700 fps, but I cannot tell you what powder they are using. Of course, this is a varmint load, and accuracy is somewhat better than 1 MOA, or better than 1 inch at 100 yards, and perhaps much better.
I am not really a Remington fan, but these and a number of the other guys I know are die-hard Remington advocates. In general, if you ask them, their choices in rifles sometimes go something like this for their top five choices: 1. Remington 700; 2. Remington 700; 3. Remington 700; 4. Remington 700; 5. Remington 700 (if you get the idea). In fact, one of these guys has a .223, .22-250, .243, 30-338, 8mm Remington Magnum, and 6.5-06, all in 700s. Some of these 700s shot .25 MOA, stock, with handloads.
I hunt with a lot of guys, and the assortment of rifles includes Remingtons, Winchesters, Brownings, Coopers, Weatherbys, customs, Sakos, Tikkas, Rugers, and others. But there is not a Savage among them. The Accutrigger, although many love it, is not good in hunting situations, in my experience. Further, I have tried two Savages, and one of those had feeding problems and trigger failure problems. I no longer own a single Savage.
If the length of pull is an issue for your friend, one of the smaller rifle versions such as the Browning Micro Hunter may be something to consider.
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A friend got one and was very unhappy ... sold it at a lost because he cannot get any decent group with any factory loads (he does not hand load). He purchased a Savage 11LRH and is very happy with it. 
http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/11LONGRANGEHUNTER0 -
how about a savage american classic 14 for short action and 114 for long actions. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by godalejr
how about a savage american classic 14 for short action and 114 for long actions.
I don't think he cares about the Savage at all.
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=426757
quote:Originally posted by briguy
I have a friend who shoots left handed. She is a woman and she is 5'5". She has a Savage 11(I think thats what it is)in a .308. This rifle seems a little long for her and it gives her a kick when she shoots it. I was lookin at the Remington 700 cdl in a .243. Can anyone tell me about these rifles?
quote:Originally posted by briguy
absolutely agree. I have been collecting guns for over 30 years I have shot and helped people shoot over a few thousand of them. It takes about 1 shot and 2 seconds to tell if a rifle fits me or another person. I would much rather pay for something that will work and be comfortable than mess around with what the last guy said "salvage".
Now can anyone tell me about the cdls?0 -
godalejr:
He originally asked specifically about the Rem 700 CDL. All you seem to want to do is sell him a Savage.0 -
It kills me to say this but Remington's quality control has gone down the crapper lately... 0 -
What kinds of issues are you seeing with their quality control?
Remington is now owned by Cerberus, the big private equity group that also bought Chrysisler. I do not know if there is a connection with quality control issues and Chrysisler and the general economy, but it would not be the first time.
Another thought I have is that while I know many people absolutely love their Savages and the Accutrigger, I would never use it in a hunting rifle, a dangerous game rifle, or a tactical rifle that would actually be used in a dangerous situation. In my experience, you cannot rely on the Accutrigger when the shot absolutely, positively, has to be there. For innocuous paper punching, it is fine. But for serious matters, I will take a Weatherby, a Sako, a Remington, a Tikka, or many others.0 -
My last 3 Remington's ( a .308 model 700 and 2 model 870's believe it or not) all had issues from day one. Specifically, the model 700 had a piece rattling around inside the synthetic stock and I had feeding issues with it. The 870's both had excessive tooling marks within the chambers that caused the chambers to lock down on the plastic hulls like a vice when fired.
I never had/ don't have any gripes about any of the older Remingtons I own or have owned. I really hope they work it out as I have always loved Remington guns.0 -
Another effort posted at GD but not very promising ...
http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4279140
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