I have this old gun...
I have an old 12ga SxS with hammers. On the rib it is marked " Alfred Dzikowski we Lwowie ", the underside of the bbls are marked 16.2/17.0 and 16.4/16.8., and both have " *M ". The floor of the receiver is marked "NCN POUR BALLE" and stamped with a crowned circle with an E over LG inside. There is a sling swivel on the bbls, raised cheek rest, and light engraving.
Any information would by great!
Any information would by great!
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Non balle means not for round ball (shot only) and the ELG in an oval is a proofmark from Liege Belgium. Numbers are guage and chamber length in millimeters. 0 -
So would this be a 16ga? At first I thought it was a 20ga, but I guess the smaller stock profile fooled me. Only after I broke the gun down did I notice the larger diameter bore an assumed it was a 12ga. 0 -
I looked in three reference books and I'm sorry to say that I couldn't find any of the names you gave. However that is to be expected as so many doubles were made in Belgium between 1870 and 1914 and not all the names were ever recorded. Since the gun was made in the 1800s it was designed and made using the technology and metallurgy of the times and for the ammunition in use back then which was black powder and lead shot loaded 2 1/2 inch shells. The gun will have damascus barrels. It was not designed for modern high pressure smokeless powder and steel shot loaded 3 inch or magnum shells. I don't consider any of these old guns to be safe to shoot using any modern ammunition. Value? Everyone wants to know. The value of these old Belgian made guns (considered by many to be a JABC, Just Another Belgian Clunker) will depend on their condition, the amount of original finish remaining on the metal and wood as well as the mechanical condition. A prime condition example that appears to have come out of the factory yesterday afternoon might bring as much as $150 while a rusty rotten incomplete piece of junk that a salvage yard would refuse might bring as little a $10 for parts. Most I have seen sold on the various gun auction sites have sold for between $59 and $95. 0 -
quote:Originally posted by raskil
stamped with a crowned circle with an E over LG inside.
The crown on the oval means it was made after 1892, so 1893 to 1914.0 -
Alfred Dzikowski we Lwowie (ovo) I believe was in Russia at the time, Google should be able to straight that out.
There was a gunmaker in Lovo by the name of Lemberg Dzikowski active circa 1850-1870. Also a Alfreda Dzikowskievo who might be the son active circa 1894.
I have no way to know how much of the gun was made in Belguim (exported barrels and action as well as guns) good pictures might help.0
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