scope bases
Just acquired a new model 70 in 300 win mag. Should I use one piece or 2 piece bases. I will be installing a leupold VX3 50mm. [:D]
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I doubt that is matters but am sure some will one is more better. Sage 1 0 -
vette81,
The usual logic is that the one-piece base will add rigidity to the rifle action. The Winchester M70 is still touted as being the stiffest of the available commercial receivers. This excludes the solid body customs that often get used for target shooting.
You should choose your scope base and ring combination based on your use and need. In this situation, either one-piece or two-piece base(s) will work just fine. I've used both for hunting rifles but stick with the one-piece bases (Picatinney) for anything having to do with accuracy shooting or exchanging scopes from one rifle to another.
Concentrate on quality, you can't go wrong.
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Thanks. I`m gonna look at both of them on the rifle and see which one works the best. [:D] 0 -
I like 2 piece bases for 2 reasons 1) they give me a little more room when loading ( XXL glove size ) and 2) you can use the scope for a carry handle ! This is on hunting rifles . 0 -
The other advantage besides stiffening the action is that the one piece allows more attachment points for ring placement, making it easier to situate the scope so that it fits you correctly. I used the Warne M676M 1 piece on a Model 70 long action with a VX3 2.5x8 and the front ring is actually halfway over the ejection port opening. I wouldn't have been able to adjust the eye relief to fit me had I used the 2 piece system. 0 -
One piece for sure...on the Selling side of gunbroker there's a trijicon one piece base that retails for $95-$100 for $70 NIB 0 -
quote:Originally posted by oneoldsap
I like 2 piece bases for 2 reasons 1) they give me a little more room when loading ( XXL glove size ) and 2) you can use the scope for a carry handle ! This is on hunting rifles .
(1) Good point, but only for top loading ... bottom loading/magazines are OK.
(2) Sorry but why in the world would you want to use your scope as a carry handle and put unnecessary stress on the tube [?][:0]
+1 on nononsense's recommendation! [^]
ADDED: Picatinny rails are made in hard anodized aluminum, SS, and even titanium in 0 MOA or 10, 20, 40 MOAs etc., for those long range shots.
Another option is the DNZ game reaper base-mount combo ...
http://www.dnzproducts.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_130 -
I don't know what you are using for scopes but they are more than rugged enough to do handle duty . Never had an incling of a problem from carrying by the scope . Has anyone actually seen a rifle loose accuracy , because it had 2 piece mounts installed after having a one piece ? It's a fine theory , but only a theory till proven . Alignment issues would be more likely , but easily solved . 0 -
Well I had a two piece mount on a 300 win mag I bought new and had for 10 years. The two piece mount I on the rear part with the adjustment screws that I locktighted down with the Red Permanat stuff got just loose enough to miss a monster trophy at 200 yds... Never Again will I use two piece bases, one piece pic's don't have any moving parts.. Take ur fat wrench set it at 28# for the base to receiver screws, 65# per sq. Inch for the ring nuts, and 28# per sq. Inch for the ring to scope screws With a lil' red lock tight And SaaZamm No scope problems......EVER 0 -
quote:Originally posted by oneoldsap
I don't know what you are using for scopes but they are more than rugged enough to do handle duty . Never had an incling of a problem from carrying by the scope . Has anyone actually seen a rifle loose accuracy , because it had 2 piece mounts installed after having a one piece ? It's a fine theory , but only a theory till proven . Alignment issues would be more likely , but easily solved .
I have several different scopes, but most are Leupolds. I said "unnecessary" stress on the tube, I guess if you want to do that to your scope, it's your scope, it's your money. In the rugged terrains of the Montana wilderness where I hunt, I used a nice carry sling and handle my hunting rifles as designed, and I never (not even occasionally) use the scope as the carry handle. Most of my hunting rifles as configured hunting ready (scoped, loaded, and with bipod and sling attached)is around the 12 pound mark.
If you look at nononsense's nice rifles and scopes in his sig line, there's hardly any space on the scope to use as carry with bare hands, let alone with gloves.
As nononsense noted "In this situation, either one-piece or two-piece base(s) will work just fine. I've used both for hunting rifles but stick with the one-piece bases (Picatinney) for anything having to do with accuracy shooting or exchanging scopes from one rifle to another." , if you feel you can achieve and maintain the accuracy you need for your intended purpose, by all means stay with 2-piece base.
Hope that the OP have enough information to help him in his decision making.
Good luck and happy safe shooting/hunting.0 -
I think that the objection to using the scope as a handle is the aversion to the idea of using an expensive (usually) optical instrument as a handle. We feel that it should be left alone to function as a scope in order to be assured that we didn't harm the accuracy in any way. It's just a funny thing to consider since recoil is probably more significant as far as potential damage is concerned. If you want a scope as a handle, so be it. AR15's/M16's are made with carry handles, I use a sling for everything other than those.
There is no reason to belabor this point about making a choice between one- or two-pierce mounts but I think there are some additional illustrations.
One point is about looks. Yes, I know that hunting rifles are tools but some folks like them to be works of art that also go hunting. Therefore we take extra pains to make the scope mounting look as much as a part of the rifle rather than just something clamped on for function.
These dovetail mounts don't necessarily blend fluidly with the rifle but they aren't just slapped on either:
Ugly but functional one-piece mount:
Ugly, slapped on two-piece mounts:
These two-piece mounts are actually a nice fit for the looks of the rifle:
Best of the two-piece:
Good looking yet functional:
The ultimate drawback to Sako mounts which are too high:
Sako mounts properly handled:
Why I hate turn scope rings:
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