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pigfarmer05
A friend's father passed away last month and he is offering me a Garand from the estate. It has a Springfield receiver that has had the serial number removed and a new number stamped in it's place. I am a little leery of this. Is there any reason to turn the offer down? The gun looks like an arsenal rebuild with a refinished stock, and comes with a bayonet. I know it is not a collector, but would make a good shooter.
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  • pigfarmer05
    I have a .308 Garand and the gas cylinder is out of spec and op rod piston is also out of spec. Should I try to get the same vintage gas cylinder? Who be good to replace the piston on op rod? Will this devalue the Garand any?
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  • vette81
    Be sure to look at Throat erosion and barrel wear. This can only be check with a gauge or you can measure barrel wear with an M2 ball round. There are several websites dedicated to the garand that have far more knowledge about all the garands.[:D]
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  • nmyers
    Navy conversions (with documentation) are collectible, but you will get fleeced if you don't know what you are looking at. Most 7.62mm conversions (NOT the same as .308 WIN) service grade commercial rifles sell in the $600-800 range.

    If you want to be sure what you are buying, check out:
    http://www.odcmp.com/ . They sell guns for the US Govt. They now have service grade rifles (with commercial wood) for $900, but they are in .30-06. Or, look for GB auctions that are for M1 rifles with CMP documentation.

    Another idea might be to look on the General Discussion forum for gun dealer Mark Christian. He often has plugs for his GB auctions, which are for M1 rifles. His descriptions (& advice) can always be trusted.

    Neal
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  • marcus396
    Rick, congrats on your interest in the M1 Garand. I am no expert by no means, I have a 54 International Harvester and she is a beauty. My advise would invest in some books and read up come up with a budget. There are many types of Garands out there for all different applications, shooters, collectors and modifications. Other experts will be along shortly to help you out as they helped me out. First off, any International Harvester will most likely have IHC marked all over the place, bolt, trigger housing, operating rod, sights,, hammers, etc, barrels are lmr, books can be so important in identifying drawing numbers, etc. as far as value,, mine was looked at by several collectors, and the only difference they see is the stock was made in 55 with correct markings. With condition and minimal barrel erosion, this was a pristine speciman that would be catorigized as correct drawing numbers for that time frame. To say its original, no one will ever know, records do not exist. Value wise.. north of 2700 and they told me never ever consider getting rid of it. Hope this helps and good luck in your M1 Garand adventures, marc
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  • mark christian
    Well thank you very much for those kind words Neal. I do have an M1 up on auction so why not give myself a little plug:

    http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=259584252

    If you are looking for a real Navy M1 then you will be paying a large premium over a .30-06 M1.
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  • Hangfire
    Another vote of confidence for Mark.. His descriptions are absolutely accurate.. Everything up-front.. Here's the post on that M-1 in General Discussion..

    http://forums.gunbroker.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=539820
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  • tsr1965
    pigfarmer05,

    A real Garand in 7.62 is a real collector, well worth having in any collection.

    Not sure how long you have been following our forums here, but Mark Christian is to Garands, as Bert H. is to Winchester's, and Nononsense is to high end gunsmithing! We are blessed to have these three as member's, who willfully give their best advice for free, let alone moderators.

    Best
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  • Mark G
    Stick with a 30-06 version and get one from the CMP. It is easy and you will never wonder if you are getting a piece of junk someone pieced together. Or, you can purchase one from Mark Christian and rest easy as well. I got mine from the CMP about 2 years ago and I am very pleased with it. You can also purchase the correct ammo and some accessories from the CMP.
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  • Emmett Dunham
    Find a good gun smith on line that will do a conversion of a 3006 Garand to .308. Buy a CMP rack grade rifle send it to the gun smith and when you get it back put a new stock on it. You will be far ahead of the curve. Sell the rack grade stock and barrel. The down side is the cost of shooting the .308 cartridge.

    Emmett
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