1911 price
Found a 1911 for sale locally, it's an auto ordnance 45 with a brazilian slide and hogue grips.
condition seems decent but, needs extractor work. also holes were drilled in the trigger and the work wasn't done very well.
I'd like to know what a safe price would be to pay for it.
condition seems decent but, needs extractor work. also holes were drilled in the trigger and the work wasn't done very well.
I'd like to know what a safe price would be to pay for it.
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The trigger is an easy $15.00 switchout. My blindfolded guess on the used gun (assuming excellent cosmetic condition) is $350.00. 0 -
There is two generations of Auto Ordnance .45's. First Gun Parts Corp/Numrich Arms, then Kahr started selling them when they bought Auto Ordnance from Numrich. I worked on one of the GPC/Numrich Arms guns years ago, it was pretty rough and never functioned correctly according to the owner, even after I worked on it.
I wouldn't be springing any money on the one you describe unless you can shoot it, to verify functionally. From your description re the extractor and trigger it sounds like bubba has had his hands on it, which isn't a positive thing.0 -
The auto ordnance frames were VERY soft. you could trim slivers of metal with a good knife. I cant understand why anyone would PAY to use that name on the later Kare made guns . I would be hard pressed to buy any pistol with mixed parts when the seller states it has known problems. 0 -
Remember that you usually get what you pay for....and it sounds to me that with this 1911 you are getting someone's garage gun. The gun market is a bit down right now and times are tough so folks are selling. Instead of this "bubbaized" gun that has who knows what done to it, why not get the real deal on the auction side of GB? But, if you are inclined to buy it, I would first want to know who had it, talk to him on what he has done to it, and then shoot it. After that, I might be interested. But with so many great 1911's out there used and in super shape (including Colt's) why settle for someone else's parts gun? Good luck[:)] 0 -
quote:Originally posted by perry shooter
The auto ordnance frames were VERY soft. you could trim slivers of metal with a good knife. I cant understand why anyone would PAY to use that name on the later Kare made guns . I would be hard pressed to buy any pistol with mixed parts when the seller states it has known problems.
That's a good question.
The answer is that Kahr bought out Auto Ordnance lock stock and barrel.
As the original Thompson submachine gun manufacturer, the Auto Ordnance company itself has a long history, so the name still has some value, even if many (most?) of the guns its made over the last generation have been of borderline quality.
Personally speaking, the fact that Kahr Arms owns Auto-Ordnance now only makes me that much LESS inclined to buy one, though that's a whole other story.
Anyway, to answer the original question, its hard to price this gun without knowing exactly what has been done to it, and how well it functions. I'd agree with Dfletcher's guesstimate of $350, but that's basically a "best case" scenario assuming the gun were otherwise in great shape and had some high-quality parts added on (including the grips).
Assuming it does NOT function well, the gun is basically a "pass" (as in don't buy at any price), unless you're prepared to do a lot of gunsmithing on it YOURSELF.
Remember you can buy a Taurus 1911 used for $450. Its not a particularly awesome brand, but the guns are tough have some nice custom touches and work well enough. You can buy a low-end Filipino Rock Island 1911 brand new for $400, used for less, and though it won't be much to look at nor will it be particularly refined, it will probably still run 100%. With both of those, at least you have some chance of resale as a single-branded entity.
For this buzzardized Auto-ordnance gun, if you're starting at $350 and need to add any amount of gunsmithing to this thing, to get it to run right, you're going to end up with more in the gun than its worth. And ultimately, no matter what you do to it, as a "Frankenstein" gun build on a low-quality receiver its going to have poor resale value.
Being Devil's advocate, if you just wanted a "beater" 1911 to tinker around with, then I could maybe see buying something like this basically just as a starting point to drop in some custom parts, and basically just to learn to work on 1911s in general. But even then, I wouldn't give more than $200-250 (max) for it, under the assumption that to get the gun into passable shape will require some added cost in parts, quite a bit of time in tinkering, and you'll still end up with something with very low resale value.0 -
Thanks thats basically what I thought, the price was right but, looks like someone else got it. 0
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