Winchester 1894 assembly markings
Is there any information of record which absolutely identifies the assembly marks (numbers, letters and stampings) found underneath Winchester barrels? Are serial numbers stamped on the bottom of the barrel if the rifle is a take down with a round barrel? I have a 1894
20 inch take down,FM,Round BBL in 30wcf with CB. I do not have a camera with a macro lens, so posting photos isn't possible. Here is what's stamped underside along the bottom as best I am able to describe.. 19308 'D oo(looks like a sideways 8, S.N.W., vp in oval, up side down pyramid with some stamping, K and F at the end where the take down tube screws into the take down frame. If you invert SNW you get MNS. Anyone have a educated guess? Or definitive answer?
20 inch take down,FM,Round BBL in 30wcf with CB. I do not have a camera with a macro lens, so posting photos isn't possible. Here is what's stamped underside along the bottom as best I am able to describe.. 19308 'D oo(looks like a sideways 8, S.N.W., vp in oval, up side down pyramid with some stamping, K and F at the end where the take down tube screws into the take down frame. If you invert SNW you get MNS. Anyone have a educated guess? Or definitive answer?
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Thanks perry shooter. Just getting started here. Will wait for Bert H. [8D] 0 -
This is not a simple answer... so here goes.
No, there is not any information of record that positively defines all of teh various markings found on the under side of the older Winchester barrels.
That said, I do know what several of the marking are that you mention.
M.N.S. = Midvale Nickel Steel.
VP (in the oval) = Violent Proof (indicating that the barrel was tested with a 200% load before being completed and assembled).
The stamped triangle has either a numeral "1" or an "i" in it and it is an inspection stamp following one of the many manufacturing steps that the barrel underwent. I see it on most of the barrels I have inspected.
The 19308 is most likely an assembly number, but it could also be an order number.
The remainder of the stamped markings are most likely inspection stamps that were applied at different intervals during the barrel making process.
No, serial numbers are not found on the underside of the barrel. It was never Wincehsters practice to serialize individual parts & pieces of the firearms they manufactured, especially the barrels.0 -
Thanks for the info Bert! I've been over every inch of this rifle with a jewelers glass and I don't find any evidence of it being faked! With the s/n being 488038 I'll have to settle for a SNA from Cody at some point. I just found the number 19038 having 038 at the end coincidental. Thanks once again 0 -
You are quite welcome[:)]
Serial number 488636 was the last one serialized on February 28th, 1911. Your rifle would have been serialized at least a few days earlier.0 -
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How long is the forend stock wood?
Can you take a picture of it outdoors in natural lighting (a brightly shaded area works best).0 -
The forearm is 9 5/8" oal with 9 3/8" between cap and receiver. I will take outside photos. Just going to take a little time. I have other measurements which I will include later on.
Should you care to correspond further you can contact me at <sharpshooter@devnull.us>0 -
quote:Originally posted by Gunslick and Hoppes no.9
The forearm is 9 5/8" oal with 9 3/8" between cap and receiver. I will take outside photos. Just going to take a little time. I have other measurements which I will include later on.
Should you care to correspond further you can contact me at <sharpshooter@devnull.us>
Thanks for posting the additional pictures... they make my job a lot easier. I edited your post to fix how the pictures are displayed. From everything that I can see in your pictures, it is a legitmate Model 1894 Take Down "Short" Rifle.0 -
Bert, Thank you for taking the time to help verify this fine piece. In all the years of collecting it's the only one I've ever seen. For those serious about collecting Winchesters it's a scarce piece. Thanks for all you do in providing info and your time and dedication to research. It is greatly appreciated by many people. Oh by the way..
"Real Men Shoot Lever Action 1894's." I just couldn't resist! [:D] Paul0
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