Ruger M77 MKII 35 Whelen issue...
So, I finally took my Skeleton stocked .35 Whelen out and shot it today. Anyways, I brought a box each of Remington 200 grain Core-lokts & Hornady 200 grain Superformance.
First shot I fired was a Remington and nothing. Just a click....held the gun in place for a few seconds, threw the safety on and proceeded to slowly eject the cartridge....sure enough...misfire. Dent in the primer, but nothing. I then took and fired 8 rounds of the Hornady without any issues at all. Shot great too!
I attempted one more Remington before I headed for home and that one went bang and hit right by the Hornady. I didn't want to push my luck anymore then that.
Any issues that anybody else has had or heard of with the Whelen's and Remington ammo? The dent in the primer of the 2 I fired was not as deep as the dent in the Hornady's that I had zero issues with. It also looked like the Remington's had standard large rifle primers in them, while the Hornady's looked to have magnum primers?
Jon
First shot I fired was a Remington and nothing. Just a click....held the gun in place for a few seconds, threw the safety on and proceeded to slowly eject the cartridge....sure enough...misfire. Dent in the primer, but nothing. I then took and fired 8 rounds of the Hornady without any issues at all. Shot great too!
I attempted one more Remington before I headed for home and that one went bang and hit right by the Hornady. I didn't want to push my luck anymore then that.
Any issues that anybody else has had or heard of with the Whelen's and Remington ammo? The dent in the primer of the 2 I fired was not as deep as the dent in the Hornady's that I had zero issues with. It also looked like the Remington's had standard large rifle primers in them, while the Hornady's looked to have magnum primers?
Jon
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Missfires happen, nothing made by man is perfect. My technique for those duds is to continue aiming for about 30 seconds, then to port arms with muzzle down range for about 2 minites. When I open the bolt I yank it open as fast as I can. With the locking lugs disengauged you will be very sad if it generates full pressure. The longest hang fire I experienced was about 7 seconds. A bag of loose 1918? Olympic Match shot about 1969. Might have been 50 hangs with 2 duds. I never could tell primers apart by looking at them. 0 -
Over the years I've had many failures to fire, most often with Remington rimfire ammo. Since I reload, I rarely shoot factory center fire, but because of my experience with the brand I'm not surprised.
I've only had a handful of 77's, but never had a misfire with any of them. I suspect the ammo. Contact Remington. They are good about that sort of thing. With the light primer hits I'm wondering if the round might have been "small for your chamber". Magnum vs. regular primers should not be a factor, but how would you know anyway?0 -
several poeple own ruger whelens here in town. all have had trouble with Rem factory ammo including myself. closley exanime the fired case and the unfired ones. the shoulder area will lookvery different. good luck Swanie 0 -
quote:Originally posted by RCrosby
Over the years I've had many failures to fire, most often with Remington rimfire ammo. Since I reload, I rarely shoot factory center fire, but because of my experience with the brand I'm not surprised.
I've only had a handful of 77's, but never had a misfire with any of them. I suspect the ammo. Contact Remington. They are good about that sort of thing. With the light primer hits I'm wondering if the round might have been "small for your chamber". Magnum vs. regular primers should not be a factor, but how would you know anyway?
I posted this question over on the ruger forum as well. Sounds like that this "special" run of .35 Whelen rifles has a history of this. Two people have mentioned having them and sending them back to Ruger...having had the firing pin replaced and never had a problem after that.
Rcrosby, your "small for the chamber" comment makes a lot of sense.
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