Cutting down a barrel
IF I CAN'T FIND ONE I WOULD LIKE TO CUT THE BARREL OF A S&W MODEL 657 DOWN TO A 3" OR 4" BARREL. THERE IS A 6" ON IT NOW AND IT'S NOT THE FULL LUG BARREL. IS THIS POSSIBLE TO DO AND MAKE IT LOOK RIGHT. I MEAN LIKE PUTTING THE FRONT SIGHT BACK ON AND CROWNING THE BARREL LIKE A FACTORY ONE. LET ME KNOW
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I'm not a gunsmith, which is the reason for my questions here.
I have a Weatherby SA-08 Deluxe semi-auto 12ga. that I want a slug barrel for. It seems, however, that Weatherby does not produce a slug barrel for this gun.
Can I just order another smooth bore barrel intended for shot, and have it cut down? My concern is the barrel itself. Would a shot barrel take the pounding and pressures of a slug?
Lastly, anyone know where I can find a "replacement" barrel for a Weatherby SA-08 Deluxe?0 -
There's no reason you couldn't use the barrel you have with the I/C choke tube for Foster slugs or this choke tube for sabot slugs.
I didn't have any luck searching for extra barrels, but I bet Weatherby would sell you one for a big price.
You are aware that .44 mag, .357, 45 Colt, and other pistol caliber cartridges in a rifle are now legal for deer season in Indiana, right? You might find a good deal on a shotgun from someone who switched to a rifle.0 -
Thanks Henry,
I appreciate the info. I have a bid on the choke tube for saboted slugs.
Yes, I know all too well the deer regs for Indiana. I have SEVERAL "deer legal" rifles, quite a few "deer-legal" shotguns (I even have an AR-15 in .41oga), and a half-dozen or so "deer-legal" handguns, but this is the only semi-auto shotgun I've ever had my hands on, and I would just like to be able to use it for deer if I so choose.
So I can use the I/C choke (improved cylinder) for "Foster" slugs? What are "Foster slugs"?0 -
From wikipedia:
Foster Slugs
A Foster slug, invented by Karl Foster in 1931, is a type of shotgun slug designed to be fired through a smoothbore shotgun barrel. The standard American domestic shotgun slug, they are sometimes referred to as "American slugs" to differentiate them from the standard "European slug" design popularized by Brenneke.
The defining characteristic of the Foster slug is the deep hollow in the rear, which places the center of mass very near the tip of the slug, much like a shuttlecock or a pellet from an airgun. If the slug begins to tumble in flight, drag will tend to push the slug back into straight flight. This gives the Foster slug stability and allows for accurate shooting through smoothbore barrels out to ranges of about 75 yards (69 m). Most modern Foster slugs also have "rifling", which consists of thin fins on the outside of the slug. Contrary to popular belief, these fins actually impart no spin onto the slug as it travels through the air. The actual purpose of the fins is to minimize the friction on both the barrel and projectile and allow the slug to safely be swaged down when fired through a choke, although accuracy will suffer and choke wear will be progressively accelerated when fired through any choke gauge tighter than open.
It is also possible to fire Foster slugs through rifled slug barrels, though lead fouling (build-up in the rifle grooves) can be a problem. Accuracy is otherwise not appreciably affected in standard shotgun rifling.
Brenneke Slugs
The Brenneke slug was developed by the German gun and ammunition designer Wilhelm Brenneke (1865-1951) in 1898. The original Brenneke slug is a solid lead slug with fins cast onto the outside, much like a rifled Foster slug. There is a plastic, felt or cellulose fiber wad attached to the base that remains attached after firing. This wad serves both as a gas seal and as a form of drag stabilization, much like the mass-forward design of the Foster slug. The "fins" impart little or no spin to the projectile; the actual purpose of the "fins" is to decrease the bearing surface of the slug to the barrel and therefore reduce friction and increase velocity.
Since the Brenneke slug is solid, rather than hollow like the Foster slug, the Brenneke will generally deform less on impact and provide deeper penetration (see terminal ballistics). The sharp shoulder and flat front of the Brenneke (similar in dimensions to a wadcutter bullet) mean that its external ballistics restrict it to short range use, as its accuracy is similar to that of an American Foster slugs while retaining the improved penetration and slug integrity of the Brenneke design.0
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